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Unread 09-28-2011, 07:34 PM
 
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Eastside includes what, Bellevue, Kirkland, Bothell, Issaquah, Redmond, Sammish etc etc. We are talking about Seattle proper. If you want, I can include Greater Seattle as well such as shootings in Renton, Everett, Tacoma, Kent, Burien, the list goes on. I am not choosing statistics to justify my opinion. I am simply re-presenting recent unbiased articles of recent shootings which the person I QUOTED mentioned that shootings are rare in Seattle.

Thank you for proving my point. People on here seem to be cherry coating Seattle a little too much. "There are no gangs" "there are no ghettos" "there are no shootings" "there are no crimes"

People need to realize that Seattle, although safer than some cities, is not immune to crime and violence and should therefore not be treated like it was. Maybe once people stop denying that Seattle has its share of problems we can start addressing those issues and prevent crime as much as we can.

People believe what they want.


I lived in Seattle for over 30 years, I know different. I am not saying the place is Oakland North.....nope. But like you said, many on this thread are trying to cherry coat Seattle just a little too much.
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Unread 09-28-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver B.C.
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People believe what they want.


I lived in Seattle for over 30 years, I know different. I am not saying the place is Oakland North.....nope. But like you said, many on this thread are trying to cherry coat Seattle just a little too much.
Seriously compared to places like Detroit, Baltimore, and Philly Seattle has nothing on ghetto. Seattle is pretty tame.

My biggest complaint is that people in the Seattle area refuse to take care of their yards. Seriously!
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Unread 09-29-2011, 12:57 AM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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I grew up on the south side of Chicago. I know the feeling of intense hatred you feel towards others and have felt towards you. Black kids would always get harrassed or harrass other white kids since there was a magnet school near us in the CPS and there was (and maybe still is) a program to bus kids from the ghettos to more affluent (mostly white) neighborhoods, the theory goes, to "learn" how to behave civilized.

It's all total and complete BS in my opinion. All it does is provide fuel for after school fights.

In Chicago, if you're white, you simply DO NOT go in some of the neighborhoods around UIC or Cabrini Green. You used to not go across the highway after a White Sox game or venture further south beyond your parking lot. If you did, you'd get beat up. Got lost one day and accidentally found myself being chased by these porch monkeys with .45's ... and I don't mean the Colts (they may have been, didn't get a good look).

If you were black, you DID NOT go into the traditional Irish/Polish areas. Cops would surround you like you were a splinter *unless* you were one of the families there. I lived next to one and they seemed happy enough though.

You don't have miles of abandoned factories and old houses RIGHT DOWNTOWN like you do in St. Louis. Seriously, was walking to where I parked one day downtown in St. Louis (not even East St. Louis, regular St. Louis St. Louis) and heard guys laughing as they shot at rats and one said he loves doing this every day and wishes they were white people.

You don't even have the redneck "hate dem city folk" types out here really. I pissed off some rednecks in 'bama because they deserved it and then felt a little like it was a bad idea ... mostly because they brought out shotguns and followed my car until I found a police station.

The meth houses are hidden in plain view mostly or out in the boonies like beyond Enumclaw. There's a couple sketchy areas near the government buildings near Yesler but I would still walk through there.

I don't feel endangered anywhere at all. Yeah there's blue collar areas but shoot, where isn't there? Even in Bellevue there's some vestiges of when that place wasn't a yuppified, sterilized hellhole (with some nice eye candy).

Flat out, from a person who's experienced it,

HELL NO THERE ARE NO GHETTOS IN SEATTLE. ANYONE WHO SERIOUSLY THINKS THERE IS IS DELUSIONAL OR NOT WELL TRAVELED.

Thank you.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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I grew up on the south side of Chicago. I know the feeling of intense hatred you feel towards others and have felt towards you. Black kids would always get harrassed or harrass other white kids since there was a magnet school near us in the CPS and there was (and maybe still is) a program to bus kids from the ghettos to more affluent (mostly white) neighborhoods, the theory goes, to "learn" how to behave civilized.

It's all total and complete BS in my opinion. All it does is provide fuel for after school fights.

In Chicago, if you're white, you simply DO NOT go in some of the neighborhoods around UIC or Cabrini Green. You used to not go across the highway after a White Sox game or venture further south beyond your parking lot. If you did, you'd get beat up. Got lost one day and accidentally found myself being chased by these porch monkeys with .45's ... and I don't mean the Colts (they may have been, didn't get a good look).

If you were black, you DID NOT go into the traditional Irish/Polish areas. Cops would surround you like you were a splinter *unless* you were one of the families there. I lived next to one and they seemed happy enough though.

You don't have miles of abandoned factories and old houses RIGHT DOWNTOWN like you do in St. Louis. Seriously, was walking to where I parked one day downtown in St. Louis (not even East St. Louis, regular St. Louis St. Louis) and heard guys laughing as they shot at rats and one said he loves doing this every day and wishes they were white people.

You don't even have the redneck "hate dem city folk" types out here really. I pissed off some rednecks in 'bama because they deserved it and then felt a little like it was a bad idea ... mostly because they brought out shotguns and followed my car until I found a police station.

The meth houses are hidden in plain view mostly or out in the boonies like beyond Enumclaw. There's a couple sketchy areas near the government buildings near Yesler but I would still walk through there.

I don't feel endangered anywhere at all. Yeah there's blue collar areas but shoot, where isn't there? Even in Bellevue there's some vestiges of when that place wasn't a yuppified, sterilized hellhole (with some nice eye candy).

Flat out, from a person who's experienced it,

HELL NO THERE ARE NO GHETTOS IN SEATTLE. ANYONE WHO SERIOUSLY THINKS THERE IS IS DELUSIONAL OR NOT WELL TRAVELED.

Thank you.

hahahaha.....thanks for the laugh
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Unread 05-09-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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I've lived in 206 my whole life. I live in north burien... its NOT even "Bad", like any other city it has its sketchy moments, and people, but over all it really isn't anything scary. I dont see white center as a threat either. It just takes some getting used to the different areas.
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Unread 05-09-2012, 10:43 PM
 
Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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I'm starting to sound like a broken record with this, but there simply are no ghettoes in Seattle. Anyone who thinks there are has never seen an actual ghetto. Like btwa says, some sketchy areas, but compared to Detroit and Southeast D.C., even those areas look like vacation resorts.
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Unread 05-10-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Smile No such thing

Born and raised in Seattle (Old Holy Park, Beacon Hill, and CD). I've lived in Chicago (Garfield/ South Side), Atlanta (West Side), Philly (NorthEast), and have since settled in NYC for the past 10 years (Castle Hill and Riverdale sections of The Bronx). I can say from experience that most people in Seattle live a very sheltered life and that's a fact. I've lived in the poorest of the poorest places where you hear gun shots daily, people are robbed in front of you, gangs on every corner, abandoned houses for miles and miles.. there is no such Ghetto in Seattle. I've taken my girlfriend and her family, who were raised in some of the worst housing developements NYC/New Jersey has to offer, and they are amazed at how clean and well kept the so-called ghettos of Seattle are, and wonder why "these people" try to imulate a culture they don't even have to live. A real ghetto is somewhere you don't want to walk through; I personally don't venture into certain housing projects or blocks in NYC because it is a fact that if you walk through, you will be harrassed black or white (and I happened to be half black half white) you not being from there. You can walk through any neighborhood in Seattle and make it out of alive. Crime is crime and it happens in any neighborhood, but to say Seattle has any sort of ghetto is just rediculous. I think people tend to catagorize a ghetto area as being the black, latino or asian part of the city but that same sheltered mentality makes people overlook the fact that there are in fact a large amount of affluent cities, neighborhoods and counties in the country with a majority black, latino or asian population.. look at the DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Texas, Florida and inner Long Island suburbs for this example.
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Unread 05-10-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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This is a conversation based upon class assumptions. It strikes me that people are automatically connecting lower income communities (in Seattle) with being ghetto. Does public housing mean it is automatically ghetto? Does a working class community equal ghetto? Are you ghetto because your neighborhood is predominately Black, or Asian, or Latino?
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Unread 05-10-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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I mostly love it where I live now but I have a bad "allergy". I'm really allergic to ghetto/gangsta lifestyle and culture. I just can't stand the thugs, real ones or wannabes and the idea that my young family will have to live side by side with them makes me cringe.
I realize that the OP is probably long gone, but this part of their comment is just really disgusting to me.

I've known thugs from the hoods of Memphis and Chicago that have gone on to become medical doctors, PhDs, and lawyers. Many of them still retain their hood mentality because that is what they were reared in.
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Unread 05-10-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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This is a conversation based upon class assumptions. It strikes me that people are automatically connecting lower income communities (in Seattle) with being ghetto. Does public housing mean it is automatically ghetto? Does a working class community equal ghetto? Are you ghetto because your neighborhood is predominately Black, or Asian, or Latino?
Well... this is Seattle... and yes, that's how it works here.

Notice how the perennial favorite neighborhoods (Ballard, Wallingford, really just about all of North Seattle) are also the whitest and not in the slightest bit working class/blue collar? While International District is "ghetto", the reality is Asians do get to skate a lot of that ghetto tag that Blacks and Hispanics are stuck with-- Look to Bellevue, you're not going to find anyone who regard it as ghetto. Of course, its posh and all that... but it also contains a greater percentage of Asians than Seattle does (a little over 2x more). Tacoma still retains that blue collar-ness and has bigger racial diversity than Seattle (more Hispanics, more Blacks)... and even with all the strides it been making the last decade as a city, Seattleites regard Tacoma as stinking and "severely" ghetto.
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