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That experience showed me that not only are there other transplants up there that you could approach, but that dating really wouldn't be much different there than here. I GAURANTEE you the "I can't date up here" thing is just a huge myth - you are way ahead of the game if you simply make a friendly approach.
Ya, plenty of transplants. I remember a post here a couple of pages back by a woman who has consistently posted about the Freeze; she claimed she made lots of friends here from different corners of the world but not anyone from Seattle. My question is - provided one doesn't have a chip on their shoulder, why would one care about the Freeze if they're able to make so many friends regardless - does it really matter where the friends are from ?
The "impossible to date here" thing is mostly perpetuated by women who are frustrated that not enough guys approach them.
Ya, plenty of transplants. I remember a post here a couple of pages back by a woman who has consistently posted about the Freeze; she claimed she made lots of friends here from different corners of the world but not anyone from Seattle. My question is - provided one doesn't have a chip on their shoulder, why would one care about the Freeze if they're able to make so many friends regardless - does it really matter where the friends are from ?
The "impossible to date here" thing is mostly perpetuated by women who are frustrated that not enough guys approach them.
I don't date, mainly because I have had trouble finding a women who would want to date me. How is the dating scene in Seattle?
It's pretty good, actually. I'm not a big time womanizer or anything but I've been able to meet a few nice ladies here.
You live in a small town in Georgia now, right ?
When you say you had trouble finding women interested in you, where exactly are you looking and how ?
How I made friends - gym, work, meetup group, etc..
I am far from a womanizer myself. I have met women, but many of them seem to be interested in men who are larger or more manly. I am just waiting out for the woman who likes a guy like myself. I was looking for the woman at school or at parties. After a while I quit worrying about looking for women and decided to be more picky about it.
I do live in a small town in Georgia. Technically, it a part of metro Atlanta, but it is closer to Alabama than Atlanta. I used to live in Everett,WA.
Im a native that travels pretty often so Ive busted out of the "Seattle sluggishness" and rampant provincialism on my own. I acutally get a secret thrill out of the passive-aggressive and anti-social behaviors that I run into here on a daily basis. I've walked away laughing from quite a few situations in the last week or so. You just have to laugh at it and dont let it become you. It doesnt make you a jerk if you make other peoples stupid behavior your own personal entertainment.
But Seattle is big enough that you can make it your own. Make friends with transplants (they're looking for friends too) and enjoy the beauty and bounty of the region in your own way. You can live here however you want.
I really like that argument on "sluggishness not easy-going." That is so spot-on. Lots of people here look frumpy, unkempt, depressed and anti-social. This isn't due to "easy-breezy joie de vivre" this is laziness, seasonal depression and malaise paired with the normal personality change of big city living multiplied by being surrounded by such people every day.
How many Seattlites does it take to change a light bulb?
Five. One to change the bulb and four to say its "fine" but then text each other about how much they hate it.
I don't particularly want someone moving here who gets a special thrill out of calling people f*wads if they don't stop and chat with him. Seriously dude, if one day in a city transforms you into a angry lunatic, what makes you think its a good idea to move here?
Lol can I ask you something? Seriously? What the hell are you talking about?? Sorry I used the word hell, was that too agressive?
first off, I think you should read the entire post that I assume you are refering too. I was actually pretty mild in almost every response, and in any case I was not the one that initiated any of the negative behavior. I was smiling and friendly to the guy that literally slapped the key to the bathroom in my hand. I walked away laughing at the guy in the gym.
I wasn't trying to "stop and chat" with the person that gave the last random bit of attitude toward me that elicited my ACTUAL negative respose, I was simply trying to ask for directions at the end of the day. And yeah, I LOVED giving them a word or two back.
I guess in your mind it's ok to non verbally tell someone to "F off", and in my mind it's ok to actually have some guts to respond with the actual words in person . . . . in any case, next time I'm there be sure to tell me where you won't be so I can avoid you, ok?
I'm just sayin, I don't want Seattle to turn into NJ. I moved away from the East Coast to get away from random people telling me to f* off.
Honestly, I rarely, if ever say something like that. I was at the end of my day, a bit lost, and the second person that day treated me like a ghost when I simply wanted direction and literally just said, "excuse me". All that I wanted was directions. I don't look like a vagrant and I dress pretty nice . . . I just didn't see any cause for it so it pissed me off.
The funny thing is, you may be right about fitting into Seattle though. As much as I like the city, I am honestly not sure if my personality would mix well there. I am a high energy person, and all of my friends are as well. We'll do stuff like drive through Sausolito blasting dance music to watch all of the ultra yuppie millionaires freak out, it's hillarious! We say "hello sir" to random people on the street, we talk to people on the ferry on the way to the baseball games, and in a nutshell, we just don't take ourselves too serious at all. We always clown around, but we do it in a way where other people around us end up having a good time too.
I like to dress nice, wear button up shirts, and at times I like to look like a business professional, because, well, that's the type of industry I work in. I just don't know if any of those things would mix too well in Seattle.
Objectively speaking though, there is really no way to know for sure until you live in a place. I may have just had some random experiences, but I've now talked to several people that have either lived there or moved from there who have identified with my recent experiences there, and they claim that those aren't just random occurences.
I was not insinuating Seattle is a bad place or all the people suck. You can get snubbed in any big city, But given that this is a "Seattle Freeze" board, I posted on the elements of the freeze that I was apparently exposed too.
I'm just sayin, I don't want Seattle to turn into NJ. I moved away from the East Coast to get away from random people telling me to f* off.
So true...SO TRUE! I am moving to Seattle, GOD willing, in November from New Jersey, aka "The Armpit of America" and this whole "freeze" thing doesn't scare me one bit. I would take "passive aggressive" Seattle people over New Jersey people anyday. In Jersey, they're not "passive aggressive", no,....they're "just plain AGGRESSIVE"
All this talk about "people being sluggish" and "they have no energy"...well, I ask you, is this the kind of "energy" you folks want to be around?:
I mean, if you scratch your nose in Jersey you are likely to have someone run up to you and say "HEY! WAT DA' FAWK YOU DINK YOU DOIN' SCRATCHIN YOUR NOSE 'EN FRONT 'O ME! YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M ANDY FIGGEROLI!!! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WIT ANDY FIGGEROLI!!??? YO! ANGIE! WATCH DA' MUSTANG, I'M BEAT 'DIS LITTLE PIECE OF S%%% LIKE MY MA BEAT ME FOR NOT MOVING OUT WHEN I TURNED 30!" Or something to that effect.
Also, no one has said this but...as hard as it is for an loud, extroverted person to meet friends in a quite, introverted place, it is equally hard for a quite, introverted person to make friends in a loud, extroverted place. I mean, people in Jersey are..."outing" so to speak, but I am not. I am quite, they are loud. No matter what...it never clicks. I am just moving at a different pace then these people are, as I would in many other parts of the country.
Seattle, on the other hand...quite? Polite? Bookish? That's me 100%. I would imagine that, more so then how outgoing or not a certain segment of the population might be, it is more important that one is on the same wave length as the general population. I mean, people in Seattle might need to "warm up" to someone over time, but hey, so do I and at least after they've "warmed up" we can see that we are the same kind of person, unlike here in Jersey, where people warm up quick but if you are like me, and prefer quite, books and walks in the woods over "da' beach, da' clubs, 'en da' Yankees" they can be as warm as they can be, but you'll still be looked at as just a big a freak as ever lived.
In short, this whole "Seattle Freeze" thing makes me want to move there more.
Lol Andy Figgeroli, that's hillarious! If I ever get to New York, I'm going to ask if anyone has seen Andy.
You may be suprised to see that you get the same type of attitude up there, but in a different way. I am fine with quiet people or even people that don't want to talk to me, but who wants a negative attitude for no apparent reason?
Regardless of whether you are introverted or extroverted, that would get real old on a day to day basis. Seems like a small thing, but it's honestly got me rethinking the move I had planned. You might want to take a couple trips there and interact as you would if you were a resident to test it out. And, I didn't notice any more general politeness up there than I've scene in any other part of the country that I've been to.
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