11-01-2012, 06:58 PM
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Hello!
My husband is in the process of deciding whether he should take a company offer to relocate to Redmond, WA or stay here in Lakewood, CA (located in Southern California near Long Beach). We would move in the month of December 2012. I have been doing a lot of research on Washington, and have a general feel for what to expect...I have read the good
, the bad
and the ugly
. Yet, I am still confused on how to really understand the weather and where might be the best location for us. So, I thought maybe writing my own thread, I could ask specific questions and hopefully get some great feedback from anyone out there
A little about us:
Family of 4, my husband and I are in our mid 40's
. Two kids in high school 9th and 11th grade. 9th grader is into golfing and wishes to continue with lessons and hopefully play on a high school team. The 11th grader is active in school and enjoys cheer leading. My top priority is finding a good high school for them to attend
.
We desire to live somewhere with at least an acre of land, in a nice neighborhood. We have to be within 20 miles of Redmond...I have looked at Gig Harbor and really like what I see there
. Love the island community feel. Prefer to live close to the ocean if possible...just not clear on the commute time via google maps, if it is accurate or not
.
What is the weather really like...when people say cloudy and rainy...does it break out later with the sun
? I have seen pictures of real estate for sale and see beautiful blue skies with big white puffy clouds...rarely do I see cloudy gray skies.
We are looking to experience weather/seasons for a change
. We have both lived in SOCAL our whole lives, and we are ready for something different. The way our trees look in the fall makes them look down right dead
!
We are trying to figure out how the cost of housing translates up there...for instance here in Lakewood 350,000. buys a 1200 sq ft home on a 5000 to 6000 sq ft lot. Elbow to elbow with neighbors...but it is a nice community, yet my kids high school has 4000 students..
.
So if you have recommendations or insight to share on areas that we could look at that are good for raising high school kids, and possibly get some acreage in the deal and also stay coastal...???? We wouldn't mind the small town feel either.
thank you for any guidance you can offer
11-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Gig Harbor? That's about an hour and a half each way commute to Redmond with no traffic if you drive at off hours. You won't find decent homes with acreage within 20 miles of Redmond for under $800,000, most will be over 1 million. Of course, realtors are going to try for a sunny time to photograph homes. In reality the sun is rare from October through June, with rain
almost every day. This time of year fairly heavy at times, misty sprinkles in spring, and a little snow 2-3 times anytime from November-April. Despite that golf is very popular, but people get used to playing in the rain here. For both golf and cheer I'd suggest any of the Lake Washington schools, but especially Eastlake in Sammamish, and in Issaquah District Skyline are probably the best choices. If you want to be more "coastal" then there will be more rain, less golf, and less quality in schools. Kirkland is a possibility but is not coastal,
though close to water, Lake Washington.
11-01-2012, 08:25 PM
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Gig Harbor isn't an island (and waaaaayy more than 20 miles away from Redmond). If you can afford it, you do have an actual island close by: Mercer Island with the state best school district, community feel plus beautiful homes. But very expensive. (Yes, I know, Lake Washington isn't the ocean, but it's close enough.) Otherwise, look into Magnolia, Ballard, Shoreline, Edmonds-- they all have waterfront communities facing Puget Sound and a lot of good schools in between.
Otherwise, don't discount Lake Washington.
11-01-2012, 10:48 PM
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You heard this here first: Those photographs of Seattle area houses with blue skies and white puffy clouds? The sky is not in Seattle. The sky is in the Czech Republic. Google Czech sky Seattle Bubble and you'll get the full story. The pictures of the house may be accurate, but not the sky.
And not to be a Debbie Downer here, but you'll need to prioritize what's important. Under 20 miles to Redmond? You might find acreage, but not overlooking saltwater. Want good schools and acreage and pretty scenery, but willing to not live by saltwater? Duvall would fit the bill, and you get more house for your money there than Redmond or Bellevue.
Have to live near saltwater? Broadview/Carkeek Park in Seattle, but no acreage lots, and the schools are OK but not great.
Richmond Beach in Shoreline would have better schools, and not a terrible commute to Redmond(by SoCal standards), but not as close as Duvall and more expensive.
11-01-2012, 10:50 PM
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11-01-2012, 11:33 PM
Location: Greater Seattle, WA Metro Area
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Ira - that's so funny. Cracking me up. Fortunately I house hunted in July 2007 and most of the photos were taken in the rain of May so I had the reverse situation
11-02-2012, 01:02 AM
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Based on your post I would suggest the Eastside. Sea side is wonderful but it's expensive, would require a longer commute and won't give you much space (unless you got a cash cow). Kirkland sounds like it might be a good option for you, if you still really want waterfront. I recommend Sammamish and Issaquah over Bellevue, but I know lots of families there too. Duvall could also be a great possibility if you like the small community atmosphere. I moved to Issaquah in February after living in N. Seattle for 9 months. We're from out of state too. I personally found the Eastside to be more welcoming and to have a lot more transplants because of the big tech companies. I live in Issaquah Highlands (which I absolutely LOVE but would not recommend to you) and the overwhelming majority of our community came from other states/countries. It might be good for your high schoolers to go to a school where not everyone grew up together. I ran into that problem when I lived in Wedgwood/Ravenna/Bryant (N. Seattle). It seemed like the entire grade went to preschool together and had already bonded before kindergarten. I did not like Seattle public schools... for many reasons. We've really enjoyed the Issaquah school district and Skyline High has an excellent reputation (just a heads up, school districts cross city boundaries... ).
The weather??? I don't think you could say that the sun breaks out predictably, but it can and does. If you are at a point of elevation you will often see breaks in the clouds somewhere, but you'll find that they're never close enough
For some reason I feel like this happens at sundown more than any other time. One really cool thing if you do live at a point of elevation (like Issaquah Highlands) is that the rain turns to snow.. but doesn't stick! There were many mornings last winter when I dropped the kids off with snow falling, got to the bottom of the hill and it was raining. Regardless, you will have days where it is nice. I remember the day after Thanksgiving was sunny and bright. Early December had many sunny days (or at least substantial blocks of sun) and after that crazy freakish mid-January snow storm, some excellent days in late January. I also like that there is a lot of cloud dynamics. It's not like Michigan where you have a grey blanket covering the entire landscape for months. The clouds have a lot of form and they are always moving, especially where I live! I love it!
Good luck. I'll be honest, I've heard that the people from SOCAL have a harder time adjusting than those of us who came from the midwest.... must be that year round perfect weather you've got
11-02-2012, 06:48 AM
Location: Duvall, WA
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I have to second Duvall. I grew up in Orange County, CA, and my grandma lives in Downey, so I sort of know the area you're coming from.
I love Duvall. We have an excellent high school (Cedarcrest), it's beautiful, you can find homes with acreage, and we're not that far from Redmond.
I don't like the sun, so I was happy to leave CA. Mom always talks about moving up here, but then she comes for a couple weeks when the weather is bad, and she swears she couldn't take it.
Good luck!
V. =)
11-04-2012, 08:57 PM
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Thank you all for your comments! I will look into the areas suggested. Any ideas about living more North of Redmond in the Snohomish area and the Glacier Peak High School? Is the traffic the complete stop and go type of traffic or slow moving...We are actually thinking about doing temp housing, furnished, and take some time to look around. The biggest worry being the kids high school...I know this will be hard on them.
I don't think we need to be coastal, by water of some sort would be lovely...but this could just be me dreaming...my husband's main desire is acreage....so that, with a great high school would be the top two priorities.
If you can think of any other ideas or suggestions, I would like to hear them...your comments definitely help me think things out
T
11-05-2012, 06:21 AM
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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In general that district is well below Lake Washington and Issaquah, but still not bad, and that particular high school is the best in the district. You need to balance your two priorities, because in general the best schools are in the most expensive areas, so if you want affordable acreage you will pay a lot or have to settle for less desirable schools. There
was recently a smaller, older house near me in Sammamish for rent on 2 acres for $2,800/month, but it went quickly. Snohomish may have a similar home for half that.
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People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)