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Old 04-16-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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need to raise a tax and ship them to California, since no one wants to live there anyway.
Speak for yourself... I'm leaving Seattle for Cali after 5 years of depressing weather so I can be happy again. Keep your homeless.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Back at home in western Washington!
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? They are "aggressive" because no one stops them.

If you are "grabbed, chased, and accosted" by homeless men, you should be just as often aggressively counterattacking, by deploying pepper spray (or other self-defense, depending on level of threat). One of the small, but not palm-sized, cans that that disperse fairly tightly up to about one meter. That slows down or stops aggressive dogs, too, though dogs often come back afterward. People, sometimes, as-well but by then you're well-clear of the trouble, hopefully.

Let 'em have it, do not hesitate if hands are put upon you (assault). Anyone who doesn't carry one or more legal(!) non-lethal, self protection devices in an urban environment isn't playing very good heads-up baseball.

After, just LEAVE. Walk the other way, immediately. Do not scream, panic, stand around, involve others, other dumb stuff.

All well within your rights, if you believe: 1) your person is in danger (fear for your safety) 2) the other party indicates they intend bodily harm.

No one is harmed, either, by pepper spray. Made uncomfortable, yes. Your objective being (only) to escape a hazard.

Quite a bit of malarkey in life you don't really "need" to tolerate, but people do anyway (= victim mentality). Counter-attacking aggressive bums/so-called "homeless" who threaten your safety (in your opinion) is a perfect example of standing up for your rights.
Excellent post! If you feel unsafe...defend yourself for heaven's sake. Capital murder isn't neccesary, but there is no reason you cannot carry pepper spray. On that same note...don't venture into dark empty alleys because you have a can of pepper spray, but if you are really feeling unsafe and accosted simply walking down the street, than you are will within your rights to non-lethally defend yourself.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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? They are "aggressive" because no one stops them.
Bingo! Report them to the police. There are police patrolling downtown regularly, on foot and in cars. And sometimes on bicycle. Get to a safe place, and call police. Much more effective than waiting hours, days, or weeks, and posting on a discussion forum.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: A Very Naughtytown In Northwestern Montanifornia U.S.A.
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Pepper spray.
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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? They are "aggressive" because no one stops them.

If you are "grabbed, chased, and accosted" by homeless men, you should be just as often aggressively counterattacking, by deploying pepper spray (or other self-defense, depending on level of threat). One of the small, but not palm-sized, cans that that disperse fairly tightly up to about one meter. That slows down or stops aggressive dogs, too, though dogs often come back afterward. People, sometimes, as-well but by then you're well-clear of the trouble, hopefully.

Let 'em have it, do not hesitate if hands are put upon you (assault). Anyone who doesn't carry one or more legal(!) non-lethal, self protection devices in an urban environment isn't playing very good heads-up baseball.

After, just LEAVE. Walk the other way, immediately. Do not scream, panic, stand around, involve others, other dumb stuff.

All well within your rights, if you believe: 1) your person is in danger (fear for your safety) 2) the other party indicates they intend bodily harm.

No one is harmed, either, by pepper spray. Made uncomfortable, yes. Your objective being (only) to escape a hazard.

Quite a bit of malarkey in life you don't really "need" to tolerate, but people do anyway (= victim mentality). Counter-attacking aggressive bums/so-called "homeless" who threaten your safety (in your opinion) is a perfect example of standing up for your rights.
This is a great post.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:23 AM
 
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So I think that not only homeless people are aggresive peole here in general tend to have an aggresive behavior. Ibelieve it to be the more than not bad attitude of state workers in the public places that count the most and affect our society as a whole, the lack of training in how to treat people with fairness of laws within government funded programs. From all walks life even in the smallest situation it creates anger and rebellious living nomatter if your homeless, or not because I feel we dont always know where they came from. It may of been someone who just got fired from Boeing or laid off from Microsoft. That I know as fact and its sad. plus im not so sure this state has enough mental support for all the overwhelmed stressed out people in our communities And man are we ever stressed and uptight.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:29 AM
 
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Also its not just a home less person that is capable of that behavior. Be aware of your surrundings Things like that happen in the mall too.
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Old 07-22-2014, 05:08 PM
 
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I recently visited Seattle and Portand and was so struck by the increase in numbers of homeless people gathering in the public parks and squares in both cities. These public spaces have become the living rooms for the huge number of homeless and street people that seem to have nowhere else to go. It's such a sign of the times, and I wonder what our government is doing to address the root cause of the issue? and what local governments are doing to help these people, as it appears they are not doing much!
These spaces used to be beautiful and utilized by locals and visitors, but while touring the historical Pioneer Square in Seattle, I was afraid to stand still for too long, as every place to sit in that square by the totem poll was taken by street people and I did not feel safe. Same thing in Portland, the green parks are filled with unhappy looking street people. I can only imagine how visitors from other countries perceive all this?!
The increase in poverty across our nation is showing up big time in the cities, there needs to be major change on a core level of our government to turn this situation around!!
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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On the day of the Pride Fest, I witnessed a group of teenagers beat a homeless man to a pulp in an alley. Apparently, the homeless guy was tripping on drugs and was yelling homophobic slurs at these teenagers.

Something seriously needs to be done about the drug epidemic which is truly ruining the lives of all these homeless.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Sabinerose & Ruth:
Ha! Just try to get the police to do anything about aggressive bums. That's the main reason they're so prolific in Seattle, the police can't/won't do anything and the bums know it. The City leadership is more concerned with protecting them than they are about protecting you.
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