Seattle Sonics considering move to Oklahoma City (appointed, to buy)

[maniabeatle01]

That happens here in NY as well. The Knicks don't sell out when they are bad. Neither do the Mets or the Jets. The only teams that sell well here regardless are the Giants and Yankees, although when the Yankees were bad in the 80's and early 90's, hardly anyone showed up to the Stadium. I think all cities are like that in terms of wanting to spend your hard earned cash on a losing team. If your team is winning, fans will show up.

[Monumental1]

Originally Posted by maniabeatle01

That happens here in NY as well. The Knicks don't sell out when they are bad. Neither do the Mets or the Jets. The only teams that sell well here regardless are the Giants and Yankees, although when the Yankees were bad in the 80's and early 90's, hardly anyone showed up to the Stadium. I think all cities are like that in terms of wanting to spend your hard earned cash on a losing team. If your team is winning, fans will show up.

Exactly............ This is not something unique only to Seattle.

[Monumental1]

Originally Posted by thatguy950

Seattle is a total bandwagon town, very fickle fans whatever team is doing well that year they will root for. But when things aren't going so well, see ya later Seattle fans. I remember blackouts for Seahawk games when they weren't playing so well, the fans not wanting those fancy new stadiums (even now with the Sonics, the fans don't want to pay for it), and thousands and thousands of empty seats at Mariner games when they were bad. Sure, Seattle teams have a "losing culture," but saying the teams have good, LOYAL fans is the ridiculous statement. Look at cities like Green Bay or Boston, even with poor performances out of the Packers or Red Sox, the fans are still there and there's no threat of a blackout like there is here.

I'm trying to give you the benefit of a doubt, but you are starting to sound like a troll from Oklahoma........hmmmmmmmm.

Well anyway. To set the record straight. "Losing Culture".......don't think so.

Mariners..........Most wins in MLB history

Seahawks.................in the Super bowl 2 Years ago, coming off third consecutive NFC West division title and their fourth consecutive playoff appearance.

Super Sonics....................Most wins in the NBA for a decade in the 90's other than Jordan and the Bulls.......3 Championship appearances, 1 Title, Hall of fame players and coaches.

Storm WNBA championship in first try...............and what are they like 8 or 9 years old.

and that's not even mentioning the Huskies over at the UW.

.......you can't be serious.

We need some more championships yes! But All of our teams have been very successful at one point or another like most teams.

The problem is. We have to many newcomers in Seattle with no civic pride, of this great city, and what it means to have Sports teams in town, and what it does for the ecconomy, and culture for that matter. Most long time residents, are HUGE Sonic fans. Hands down.

[thatguy950]

I'm actually from Southern Cal, NOT Oklahoma.... Any by losing culture, that's exactly what I mean...NO CHAMPIONSHIPS (Storm doesn't count IMO). No championships=losing culture, and if you really think the Hawks are going anywhere this year, oh boy.. That's all I'll say.

[maniabeatle01]

Thought you guys might be intrested in reading this:

SI.com - Writers - Jack McCallum: Sonics have one foot out the door - Thursday November 8, 2007 1:15PM

[PlanetMars]

Originally Posted by maniabeatle01

Thought you guys might be intrested in reading this:

SI.com - Writers - Jack McCallum: Sonics have one foot out the door - Thursday November 8, 2007 1:15PM

How about this, which describes Clay Bennett as the "worst owner ever."

ESPN Page 2 - Caple: 'Cash-Us Clay' tries to KO Seattle fans

[kmfseattle]

Or how about ...

CityData.com Forum - OKC Sonics!

I realize many of us, since there's a pseudo-vested interest here, are pretty defensive about this but realistically the local gov hasn't given but a crumb of support for Clay (and rightfully so). His demands are outrageous, and the non-Seattle consensus sees the city as, and I quote, "pathetic" for not providing exactly what he wants. Really, aside from the ESPN article above, there seems to be very little Seattle support regarding the move.

The part that really gets be is the fact that he set his extreme demands in stone, and didn't allow any room for negotiation - but from an outside perspective, we are seen as the city who gave our team absolutely no financial support when they "pleaded" for it. It's like throwing change to a millionaire!

[bobmulk]

I'm sorry, but isn't there anyone else but me out there who is sick to death of whiny-ass crybaby multimillionaires like ball players and team owners? They demand the world from taxpayers and continually b**ch about wanting more. Nothing is ever enough. Personally, I respect Seattle and the legislature for finally standing up to these overpaid pansies and saying "ENOUGH". Somewhere along the line it has to happen. Then perhaps sanity will prevail with professional sports.

Oops, sorry, I'm dreaming.

[maniabeatle01]

Now, being that I'm not a Seattle-ite (In heart only), I have never been inside of the Key Arena, just passed it on my way back to Bremerton from the Space Needle. Does he really need a new arena to survive in Seattle?

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by thatguy950

Seattle is a total bandwagon town, very fickle fans whatever team is doing well that year they will root for. But when things aren't going so well, see ya later Seattle fans. I remember blackouts for Seahawk games when they weren't playing so well, the fans not wanting those fancy new stadiums (even now with the Sonics, the fans don't want to pay for it), and thousands and thousands of empty seats at Mariner games when they were bad. Sure, Seattle teams have a "losing culture," but saying the teams have good, LOYAL fans is the ridiculous statement. Look at cities like Green Bay or Boston, even with poor performances out of the Packers or Red Sox, the fans are still there and there's no threat of a blackout like there is here.

Most towns are that way. I am in Denver now and the Broncos are losing, and losing bad. People are mad...some have stopped watching the games on TV, but that does not mean we would not bulldose the city if they took our bronocs away. Come on seattle, please dont let this happen to you. Beat that bastard. Im on YOUR side. You are the greatest city in America, you CANT LET THIS HAPPEN.

-steve from Denver.