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Old 05-09-2015, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Past: midwest, east coast
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First, that assumes that people eat or don't eat at specific fast food locations for ideological reasons which I suspect is only true for about 1% of the population.

But in general, the difference between the Seattle metro area and say...Oklahoma City is probably only about 20 percentage points. Seattle is maybe 60/40 liberal/conservative whereas Oklahoma City is maybe the opposite, 40/60 liberal conservative. This is a majority rules country so that 20% makes all the difference in policy and character of the city. But in the end there are millions of conservatives living in the Puget Sound region just like there are millions of liberals living in Oklahoma. It's just that neither of them are in the majority.
Seattle is definitely one of the more liberal metro areas (probably Top 3 in the nation) but there are still plenty of conservative or Independent right-leaning folks (I'm the latter). I once heard the term "Washington Republican," which pretty much refers to what a lot of Eastsiders are; fiscally-conservative and socially liberal or socially "I don't care you live your life and I'll live mine."
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Guess the "A" in Chick-fil-A doesn't stand for "Aetheist".
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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Live and let live and be open-minded, isn't that what being liberal is all about?
That's the dictionary definition, but in terms of politics I would say Libertarian is closest to what you've described.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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Seattle is definitely one of the more liberal metro areas (probably Top 3 in the nation) but there are still plenty of conservative or Independent right-leaning folks (I'm the latter). I once heard the term "Washington Republican," which pretty much refers to what a lot of Eastsiders are; fiscally-conservative and socially liberal or socially "I don't care you live your life and I'll live mine."
from what i gather, Washington State is like a spectrum: the further west you go, the bluer it gets, while the further east you go, the redder it gets. I remember in the last gubernatorial race, which was part of a larger national election, one of the talking heads on cable news said the Republican challenger for governor hadn't really delivered the eastern part of the state, and without that he was toast. They were right, and Inslee won.

It was a bit surprising to see Issaquah, which is fairly Democratic, is in a Republican district, but the rep is fairly moderate, judging by his Wikipedia entry. That district looks to be about as far west as the GOP goes.
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:52 AM
 
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That's the dictionary definition, but in terms of politics I would say Libertarian is closest to what you've described.
actually, most of the democrats that i know are actually libertarian in their views but they continue to vote democrat in every election because they don't want to "waste their vote"...
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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actually, most of the democrats that i know are actually libertarian in their views but they continue to vote democrat in every election because they don't want to "waste their vote"...
This is getting totally OT but this is exactly why the two-party, first-past-the-post system is antiquated and harmful. It forces people not to vote based on their beliefs but based on either fear of the wrong team winning or some kind of notion that you need to pick the winner.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Palmer/Fishhook, Alaska
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Just what we need...more fast food
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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This is getting totally OT but this is exactly why the two-party, first-past-the-post system is antiquated and harmful. It forces people not to vote based on their beliefs but based on either fear of the wrong team winning or some kind of notion that you need to pick the winner.
Actually I think the opposite is true. It makes people slaves to party and they keep re-electing incompetents and idiots because they have a D or R after their name and not because they are any good or effective.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:44 PM
 
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Actually I think the opposite is true. It makes people slaves to party and they keep re-electing incompetents and idiots because they have a D or R after their name and not because they are any good or effective.
I think you are both actually in agreement with each other. The 2 party system self perpetuates itself.

The wasted vote argument is a fallacy but most democrats believe it anyway. As for why democrats believe in such a fallacy? I won't say because I'll offend a lot of Seattle residents (since most of them are democrats).

But I still like chick-fil-a. I think I like the classic chicken sandwich the most but I do like the one with lettuce and tomato added as well as I think that adds some more color and depth to the sandwich. As for sauce, the polynesian is a little too sweet but still my favorite. My least favorite sauce is actually the yellow chick-fil-a sauce. My vote for most unoriginal sauce (not including ketchup) is probably the buffalo sauce. I like it but it just tastes like...buffalo sauce.

RVD.
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:15 AM
 
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actually, most of the democrats that i know are actually libertarian in their views but they continue to vote democrat in every election because they don't want to "waste their vote"...
I've noticed that every right of center poster here has themselves convinced that all the Democratic voters here aren't really Democratic. It's bizarre. I've never heard of anyone voting differently than they believe simply so they can be "part of a majority". The Democrats win here because there are more Democratic voters. As for Chick-fil-A, I've had them, they're okay but I certainly not worth driving to Bellevue or Lynnwood for.
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