11-04-2014, 11:21 PM
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Seattle is definitely the "snobbiest" place that I have ever lived. No doubt about it. The snobbery really doesn't bother me all that much. The snobbiest people here tend to be hipsters overly obsessed with fitting that stereotype, REI yuppies, or bleeding heart liberal elitist types. What really bothers me is that enormous materialistic, superficial, and closed mindedness of people here which was a total shock to me (people in the more liberal places I have lived seem to have had a more open-minded, friendly, and anti-materialism/anti-superficaility vibe). I'd even go as far as to say that people in the more podunk, backwoods, redneck, conservative type places were light years ahead of people here in terms of open-mindedness, acceptance and getting to really know one another. Dont get me wrong, Ive met some cool people here, but for the most part the awful people are one of the absolute worst aspects about living here.
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11-05-2014, 12:50 AM
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Not Microsoft. Plenty of my co-workers didn't have a degree at all. There are some positions for which it is required, but not the majority. You will often see a requirement for a bachelors or equivalent experience . If you could prove you had the knowledge to do the job - then you could get hired to do it. They pay for results, not pretty pieces of paper. I know engineers at Amazon and Google without degrees as well.
I have never worked at MSFT so I can't speak for them but it is very well the exception rather than the norm at Amazon and Google to find full time employees who don't have a college degree. In fact, I'd say that at Google, most engineers have a graduate degree (masters or PhD) so even a 4 year undergrad degree is more like a minimum. And yes, most of these degrees are from top schools (of which none are within a 700 radius of here). But I have always worked in engineering so other areas in these companies might be different. In fact, I cannot think of a single engineer on any of my teams in these 2 companies who did not have a college degree (although there were many at other smaller companies in the past).
But of course if you are an exceptional person who is very smart, you definitely can get a job and can succeed without a college degree. I don't think anyone is saying that a person cannot succeed. It's just that the odds and your path will be much more open for you if you get a 4 year college degree.
That's all...
11-05-2014, 06:39 AM
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Seattle is definitely the "snobbiest" place that I have ever lived. No doubt about it. The snobbery really doesn't bother me all that much. The snobbiest people here tend to be hipsters overly obsessed with fitting that stereotype, REI yuppies, or bleeding heart liberal elitist types. What really bothers me is that enormous materialistic, superficial, and closed mindedness of people here which was a total shock to me (people in the more liberal places I have lived seem to have had a more open-minded, friendly, and anti-materialism/anti-superficaility vibe). I'd even go as far as to say that people in the more podunk, backwoods, redneck, conservative type places were light years ahead of people here in terms of open-mindedness, acceptance and getting to really know one another. Dont get me wrong, Ive met some cool people here, but for the most part the awful people are one of the absolute worst aspects about living here.
"REI yuppies". I love people like you. Categorizing everyone who shops at REI meanwhile calling everyone snobs. You're the real problem, did you know that?
How do you judge people because they stop at REI or anywhere for that matter. I'm a backpacker/hiker and Rei is easily the best place to shop for outdoor gear. Should I stop so I don't fall into your judge mental category of "Rei yuppie"? Of course not. I'm not anywhere near a regular seattle person but I happen to shop there a lot.
Have fun going through life labeling and judging people like that. You kinda remind me of a typical seattlelite ironically.
11-05-2014, 07:25 AM
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But, in Seattle you can just go ape-poop rooting for this particular NFL team that is kinda struggling right now. And have "just" an Associates Degree, drive a Kia not a BMW, and choose not to eat granola. Unless you want to. And go hiking at Big Four Mountain and Lake 22 on the side of Mt. Pilchuck.
I think it's all within the realm of possibility. Living in
Wenatchee or Moses Lake , though, not Seattle. And descending in on Seattle for Tragically Hip concerts. If I could persuade those Canadians ta head to Seattle during their 2015 tour, that is.
11-05-2014, 01:24 PM
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"REI yuppies". I love people like you. Categorizing everyone who shops at REI meanwhile calling everyone snobs. You're the real problem, did you know that?
How do you judge people because they stop at REI or anywhere for that matter. I'm a backpacker/hiker and Rei is easily the best place to shop for outdoor gear. Should I stop so I don't fall into your judge mental category of "Rei yuppie"? Of course not. I'm not anywhere near a regular seattle person but I happen to shop there a lot.
Have fun going through life labeling and judging people like that. You kinda remind me of a typical seattlelite ironically.
The OP asked for a generalization and I provided one. I clearly stated that these stereotypes are not true of everyone ("The worst offenders TEND to be"). What can I say? Sorry, I touched a nerve there, North Face guy.
This brings to mind yet another thing that annoys me about Seattle. People here TEND to be Way too sensitive about things. Relax, people. Dont let some schmu(k tossing out generalizations about a topic about generalizations on the internet ruin your day.
11-05-2014, 02:27 PM
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The OP asked for a generalization and I provided one. I clearly stated that these stereotypes are not true of everyone ("The worst offenders TEND to be"). What can I say? Sorry, I touched a nerve there, North Face guy.
This brings to mind yet another thing that annoys me about Seattle. People here TEND to be Way too sensitive about things. Relax, people. Dont let some schmu(k tossing out generalizations about a topic about generalizations on the internet ruin your day.
Ruin my day? Lol. Far from it. Just pointing out that you are the perfect example of what the OP is talking about.
Anyone who walks around calling people yuppies and snobs usually has self esteem issues. Approach everyone with an open mind and you would be surprised to learn how often your stereotypes are way off. Plus, you keep yourself from being a douche bag.
11-06-2014, 03:37 PM
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Oh, I am sorry to hear that! I very much understand what you mean. I too find a lot of comments on the internet pretty mean. I too am thinking if I should move back to Seattle, but wonder whether it is worth it or it's just "grass is greener on the other side".. Which state are you in? I'm in the Midwest! I'll spiritually support you
I'm in New Mexico right now, but I will be traveling soon for my business, so I won't be here much longer. At the end of the day, I think the only thing that matters is that you find somewhere that makes you truly happy. Thank you for your support and good luck with your decision!
11-06-2014, 11:02 PM
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Seattle is definitely the "snobbiest" place that I have ever lived. No doubt about it. The snobbery really doesn't bother me all that much. The snobbiest people here tend to be hipsters overly obsessed with fitting that stereotype, REI yuppies , or bleeding heart liberal elitist types . What really bothers me is that enormous materialistic, superficial, and closed mindedness of people here which was a total shock to me (people in the more liberal places I have lived seem to have had a more open-minded, friendly, and anti-materialism/anti-superficaility vibe). I'd even go as far as to say that people in the more podunk, backwoods, redneck, conservative type places were light years ahead of people here in terms of open-mindedness, acceptance and getting to really know one another. Dont get me wrong, Ive met some cool people here, but for the most part the awful people are one of the absolute worst aspects about living here.
Can you elaborate on what exactly these people say/do that make them appear to be snobs?
In my view, people shop at REI because they like hiking, etc., and they want good quality gear. Unless you're talking about teenagers, i don't see people looking down on you for having lesser quality outdoor gear.
As for liberal elitists, what makes them more snobbish or close-minded than conservative-minded elitists? If REI yuppies are nature loving tree-huggers, are they really more materialistic and superficial than those who would love to put more condos and strip malls?
Finally, just how bad are the "awful" people of Seattle? Are you being looked down on by these folks? Did you have a falling out with the Sierra Club? What gives?
11-07-2014, 01:08 PM
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Move where you want to move. Snobs are everywhere. Ignore them. Non-snobs are also everywhere. I don't understand the people that need to judge everyone that's different from them. Strange way to go thru life, but whatever, moving on.
11-10-2014, 05:49 AM
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I'm still new, from my experience I say there's a lot of polite folks here as well. A turn signal actually gets acknowledged by folks commuting with you. Yet, there's a handful that will cut you off. I know I'm off track but, my point is by the numbers you'll come across transplants like yourself and those who either grew up here or have twenty years on you. I think the ones here the longest, feel a sense of entitlement imho
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)