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Old 02-02-2009, 09:04 AM
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House prices will never come down. They will just level off.
Are you sure about that?
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:56 AM
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A 500K house selling for 300K is a 40% drop. I really doubt you will see that in Seattle. While other areas have seen that, Seattle has only lost 11%, it may go as high as 20% but don't expect an area that has been built out to drop 40%. There are still too many people in the area that want to become home owners and still too little in the way of supply to see that kind of drop.
I bought my house for $300k in 2002. When I refinanced for rennovations in 2005, it was worth $500k and that's the property tax appraisal value as well. If I put it on the market today (even with the new roof, plumbing, electrical, etc), I'd be lucky to get much more than $300k. That wouldn't even cover the loan.

About 50% of the houses in my neighborhood are for sale. Half of those are new development, the other half are residents. None of these houses have sold in at least 6 months. I've talked to many of my neighbors, and they're pricing just at or below loan value/tax assessor value... they are in a position to take a LOSS (not just zero or low profit) and they STILL can't sell.

I don't know about official statistics, I just know what I see in my neighborhood.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:57 AM
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I dunno. 40% seems steep, but looking hard at what's selling around me, I think we've seen an 19% drop in just the last 10 months. If MS starts laying off hard, I think we'll certainly see prices in Redmond fall further fast. It's still nice and still convenient and all, but supply and demand...!

And I guess we have 41Willys to thank. He jinxed it. Da**it!!

No plans to move, but certainly it's been a fast and hard fall!
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:02 AM
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If MS starts laying off hard, I think we'll certainly see prices in Redmond fall further fast.
MS cancelled a lot of contractors around Christmas, and then had a round of full-time lay offs in January. I think we're in for a few more rounds of RIFs. I think the impact will go way beyond the Redmond town limits! MS is one of the top employers in the Seattle area, if they start laying off hard I bet we'll see foreclosures from Kent to Lynnwood and out to North Bend.
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I can only see housing prices going down.
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I bought my house for $300k in 2002. When I refinanced for rennovations in 2005, it was worth $500k and that's the property tax appraisal value as well. If I put it on the market today (even with the new roof, plumbing, electrical, etc), I'd be lucky to get much more than $300k. That wouldn't even cover the loan.

About 50% of the houses in my neighborhood are for sale. Half of those are new development, the other half are residents. None of these houses have sold in at least 6 months. I've talked to many of my neighbors, and they're pricing just at or below loan value/tax assessor value... they are in a position to take a LOSS (not just zero or low profit) and they STILL can't sell.

I don't know about official statistics, I just know what I see in my neighborhood.
Are you in Seattle proper?
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:04 PM
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I can only see housing prices going down.

Me too. Inventory of existing homes for sale is still pretty high, and sales of existing homes for sale is significantly down. The ratio of median income to median home prices is way too low, so either incomes will dramatically increase, or home prices will fall. There's also a historical ratio of rents to home prices, and it too is all out of whack, so either rents will rise or home prices will fall, or both...
I don't see a freefall in home prices coming. i don't see 50% off sales, but there's no doubt in my mind that prices will continue to drop...probably somewhere between another 10-20%.
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Are you in Seattle proper?
No, we're out in Kenmore/Bothell.
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Seattle Bubble — News & discussion about real estate & the housing bubble in the Seattle area.

It's rich in statistical analysis... and the trend is worse than many here seem to think.

Long, long way from bottom. Batten down the hatches.
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