I dont recommend Seattle as your home (condo, crime)

[41Willys]

Who are the 15%?

[wannabeaTexan]

Originally Posted by 41Willys

Who are the 15%?

Not anyone *I* know...

[chris]

the list is fairly accurate. Some good, mostly not-so-good points about Seattle. It's definitely a unique place...

We also get a lot of transplants from Minnesota for whatever reason.

[Negotiator75]

Originally Posted by wannabeaTexan

Not anyone *I* know...

15% would be a mix of people. Your hardcore Seattle people - ones that only know Seattle and have never lived anywhere else.

But to stay on topic & sum it up, Seattle is not a good place to live unless you make more than $75,000 a year and don't mind the Traffic, the Rain & awful grey skies every day & the Weird "eclectic" people with the funny glasses.

[pwright1]

Every city you read on CD there's always something about new transplants moving in and ruining their city or locals complaining about how much things have changed. As life moves on do you really expect things to stay the same. Now I'm reading about cities like Cheyenne Wy and Billings Mt telling transplants to stay away.

[Negotiator75]

Originally Posted by pwright1

Every city you read on CD there's always something about new transplants moving in and ruining their city or locals complaining about how much things have changed. As life moves on do you really expect things to stay the same. Now I'm reading about cities like Cheyenne Wy and Billings Mt telling transplants to stay away.

The reason I am telling people to stay away is because I made a mistake just like every other family that has moved here wanting a change for the better. I am moving away as soon as I can over to Pennsylvania. Its just a matter of getting some money saved up to move - its really tough to save money with SO many expensive bills, daycare, rent, car payment, insurance, cell phone, home phone, cable tv, internet access, groceries, kids school, GAS, school loans.

I mean you have to live, right? I am sure I speak for alot of us here when I say life can be tough in Seattle.

[Treefriend]

Keep it up, Neg75. Spead the word far and wide.

TIA!

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by Treefriend

You are right, "Passive-Aggressive" is a term that gets overused.
My theory is that the people who use it are the people with an
undeserved sense of entitlement who can't get the rest of the world
to agree with them about their own self-importance.

Like some rageaholic who can't organise his or her day
very well so is in a hurry, blasting up behind me and tailgating
me to try to intimidate me into joining their frantic rush.

I make sure to plan my day specifically so I don't have to rush,
but the incompitent, aggressive one will no doubt tag me as
"passive-aggressive" because I do not meet their imperious demands.

Originally Posted by MK1971

Exactly! The "passive-aggressive" tag is relative to the expectations of the person using it. Although, you're not as likely to hear an "in your face" comment here (unlike, say Newark, NJ, where "eff you" is used more than "hello")-- people will manifest their dissatisfaction in other, indirect, ways. Although, I meant overused as in people not using the correct definition and saying passive aggressive to describe other things they don't like about people.

Well, it's 10:06 -- I have "drink the rest of my coffee" on my planner from 10:07-10:15 and then I'll doodle on down to Pike Place from 10:16-noon, since I didn't tell myself I had to be there until 12:15, I can just take my time (smiley face -- was that comment also passive-aggressive or just "snarky" -- yet another term tagged with Seattle culture).

By the way, generally, passive aggressiveness and "snarkiness" (prone to sarcastic comments) are archetypical behaviors of people who are discontent but feel unable to change the situation. Extrapolating a little bit, but I don't find it surprising that a populace that's experienced changes that they don't like, yet are beyond their control, would exhibit this type of behavior.

It seems there are some amateur psychologists on this board, or do you two have advanced degrees in psychology, counseling, etc?

Passive-agressive is just what it said: Saying you'll do something and then not doing it; being nice to someone's face and then being mean to them behind their back, etc. It has nothing to do with a feeling of entitlement. It is not "passive-aggressive" because I do not meet their imperious demands. Passive-agressive means agreeing to "meet their imperious demands", then not. "Snarkyness" (a new term that is probably not in any dictionary yet and seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean), if used in the sense of sarcasm, is present everywhere. So is Passive-agressiveness. It is ot exclusive to Seattle. BTW, I do have some experience in psychiatric nursing.

[j33]

Originally Posted by Negotiator75

You are not "living" unless you have a place to call your own and you are not throwing away money in rent.

I do not agree with this at all. In some instances, it makes much more sense to rent, especially if you have a 'deal' in an overpriced neighborhood as I do. I like were I live, my job (that I like) ties me here, as does my family. It makes much more sense for me to continue to rent my apartment that is a few hundred dollars under the market rental rate in a neighborhood that I love which is close to my job and sock that extra money away and let it earn interest than it would to max out my credit, triple my monthly housing costs, and be one paycheck away from being out on the street. So no, 'living', for me, is not defined as owning one's own home.

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by Negotiator75

Ideal places to live, if you want to get a house, would be in Ohio or Pennsylvania. Only because the real estate is way more reasonable there. Also Texas would not be bad, but the weather can get to 110 degrees.

You are not "living" unless you have a place to call your own and you are not throwing away money in rent.

Personally, if comparing cities that are similar, I would choose Boston, MA over Seattle, WA. The two are similar in many respects. Boston has more character.

Mr. Negotiator, have you checked into "TAXES" and "CRIME" in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Let me inform you as to "TAXES"

Pittsburgh area home $ 300,000
Property taxes $ 7-8,000 /year
Fed income tax Yes
State income tax Yes
Local wage Tax Yes

Seattle Area home $ 550,000
Property Taxes $ 3500 / year
Fed Income Tax Yes
State Income tax NO
Local Wage Tax NO

You get the idea now?

You are going to PAY a ton of money in TAXES in PA, probably more than purchasing and financing a home in Seattle. So, where do you want your money to go, into your investment or into your Governments greedy hands?