How are there so many people on here who dislike Seattle!? (Pacific: real estate, apartment)

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by RotseCherut

If you had read everything I wrote in its entirety, which I doubt you did, you would have understood that my point is that Seattle has been a thriving and successful city due to the more conservative politics of this state, which is still demographically very red.

No it's not. Demographically, Washington has been effectively blue for 30 years.

[RotseCherut]

Originally Posted by Seacove

No it's not. Demographically, Washington has been effectively blue for 30 years.

Wrong, just look at your map.. And, there are many swing counties that have tendency to go red, but went blue in the last election, which include, Skagit, Whatcom and Clark counties. Clark county has been overwhelmingly red until recently with the major influx of Portland and other California/East liberal transplants moving in.

Pierce county also has a very blue collar/union worker style Democrat makeup, but that can also swing the other way if the democrats keep alienating these people and chase away their employers from the region and tax them to death, since many of these middle class blue collar workers end up in the "rich zone" of the more radical leftist democrats we are seeing in our era. Pierce county is very much like Western Pennsylvania style democrats.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by RotseCherut

Wrong, just look at your map.. And, there are many swing counties that have tendency to go red, but went blue in the last election, which include, Skagit, Whatcom and Clark counties. Clark county has been overwhelmingly red until recently with the major influx of Portland and other California/East liberal transplants moving in.

Yes, look at that map and where the population resides. Multiple blue counties, not just King. Pretty much most of Western Washington. And even Whitman county in the East passed Ref. 74

Referendum Measure No. 74 Concerns marriage for same-sex couples

[505HPC6Z06]

Originally Posted by destroycreate

I moved here a few weeks ago from SF and I've never been happier. I feel more at home here than anywhere I've ever lived.

There is something so calming and serene about living in the Pacific Northwest. It's stunningly beautiful. But also, Seattle is way more urban, sophisticated and walkable than I ever thought it would be. It's got the amenities I liked of the older, more traditional "urbane" cities but it's wayyyyy cleaner and well run and certainly less claustrophobic. You also don't see many thugs and unstable, aggressive homeless people here (I lived in SoMA in SF, and it was scary walking 4 blocks at night to my car everyday. Not once have I felt "sketchy" here). It surpassed my expectations on this one. Yes, transit could be better, but because I live in Capitol Hill everything I need is a short walk away.

Why the hype over dirty, filthy and expensive SF? This place is so much more livable and affordable. Better yet, people have been super nice and welcoming..I haven't experienced the freeze. In fairness, a bunch of my friends from SF had relocated here 2 years ago, so I'm not starting from scratch, but the locals they've introduced me too all seem very nice. Some of you guys focus on the negatives way too much.

Why the ignorant questions?
Give yourself 9-12 months or more before bashing other peoples opinions. I bash it (aside from the outdoors) and I lived there for two decades. I have ground to stand on and you don't.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by 505HPC6Z06

Why the ignorant questions?
Give yourself 9-12 months or more before bashing other peoples opinions. I bash it (aside from the outdoors) and I lived there for two decades. I have ground to stand on and you don't.

Why be like that?

[folkguitarist555]

My take, Seattle is one of the best places to live in the USA. Its clean, newish, youthful, beautiful nature and setting, trendy, live and let live, artsy, hip, and it is so green and has mountains and water galore. But in the last ten years, or so, things have changed. Too many people have moved here, and continue to, which has rendered the area really congested, and the traffic horrible (though great places have this trend). The rents and housing costs have been soaring. It is not near as friendly a city as it once was years ago. It is much harder these days to date, and befriend others now. High quality of life due to the economic engine and the educated populace, for sure.

I prefer the old Seattle then the new Seattle though. I remember the times when the traffic was bearable, and it was still somewhat undiscovered. I remember some hotel type long term places existed in various places downtown, and they were cheap and put you right in the heart of Seattle. And you could pay monthly, and the buses were free to ride downtown, there were even decent dance clubs, and bars and places to relax at and have fun. They are mostly gone now ( The China Clipper, Petosa's, etc...and Pioneer Square nightlife was booming then). I remember when grunge rock was popular here, and the music scene was on fire. Downtown was much safer and fun, and not as wild and dangerous as it is now, and full of thugs.

Seattle was a magical, and unique place back then. Then the Californians came......and everyone else. Just kidding, but to be frank, I am not nuts about the change in Seattle over the years. Guess the whole country is going this way though. Have to accept it though.

[angelenogirl]

Anything is going to look amazing next to that wreck of a city San Francisco. (No offense!) But Seattle is really amazing in its own right. You know that meme about nobody having time for all that? It doesn't apply to all the people who complain about this place all day (with two 15-minute breaks per shift). They actually seem to have time for all that.

[folkguitarist555]

I never been too San Fran, but I would think the two cities are similar in lots of ways. San Fran just being more expensive. Or if anything, Seattle is becoming a lot like San Fran maybe? I wonder how they are different.

[AmFest]

Originally Posted by folkguitarist555

I never been too San Fran, but I would think the two cities are similar in lots of ways. San Fran just being more expensive. Or if anything, Seattle is becoming a lot like San Fran maybe? I wonder how they are different.

They feel very different to me. Seattle is very white, while San Francisco is really diverse. Seattle has the cloudy season and the sunny season, while San Francisco has the cold and sunny season and the sunny and cold season. San Francisco people and warm and ride at the same time, while Seattle people are polite and cold at the same time.

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by destroycreate

You also don't see many thugs and unstable, aggressive homeless people here

During my last three visits to Seattle, whenever I walked from Belltown through to Pioneer Square, I saw lots of homeless men, and they were very aggressive indeed. Far more aggressive than the many homeless I've seen in New York City or Los Angeles.

No, I'm not being "negative" or a "hater." I don't hate Seattle. Just reporting the facts the ground.