U guys still have Statue of Lenin ? (Seattle, George: house, buy)

[toughguy]

Originally Posted by sean98125

I think a Lenin statue that you can't get a photo of without getting the logo of a fast food taco stand is a perfectly appropriate way to show the triumph of capitalism over communism. And seeing the Lenin statue in the middle of a neighborhood that is increasingly taken over by chains and large businesses really emphasizes how total the collapse of Communism has been in the past 20 years. China isn't even pretending to be a communist nation any more.

Greed trumps altuism, every time. It's a fundamental trait of human kind.

[Wishin4sun]

Fremont what a disgrace It always has been

Originally Posted by DestinationSeattle

When I was reading up on Seattle before my trip out there, I was fairly appalled by the thought that the city would allow a statue of one of history's great butchers to stand. Now that I've been there and stood next to him, I can totally appreciate the artistic grandeur of the whole thing. He's striding forward so purposefully through the flames around him. It's really quite impressive.

It's just too bad that it's Vladimir Lenin.

But then it *is* in Fremont, home of the naked bicyclists. I think just about anything goes in that neighborhood.

[sean98125]

Fremont has not always been a disgrace. It used to be a great working class neighborhood and then a neighborhood of interesting stores and shops. Now it's on the way to becoming just another strip mall with interesting décorations.

[509]

Originally Posted by Wishin4sun

Fremont what a disgrace It always has been

An absolute disgrace.......for a city to allow this statue of a mass murderer indicates a complete lack of any intelligence.

What next....a statue of Hitler, Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin???

The worst part of all this is that Seattle residents think that the statue is funny. Hey, maybe they will put up a statue to the Green River....oh no, he didn't kill enough people to qualify for that honor.

[toughguy]

Originally Posted by 509

An absolute disgrace.......for a city to allow this statue of a mass murderer indicates a complete lack of any intelligence.

What next....a statue of Hitler, Mao, Pol-Pot, Stalin???

The worst part of all this is that Seattle residents think that the statue is funny. Hey, maybe they will put up a statue to the Green River....oh no, he didn't kill enough people to qualify for that honor.

Hey, there is a picture of Bush in the lobby of the building I work in, and he is directly responsible for thousands of civilian Iraqi deaths. At least the Lenin statue has some artistic merit.

[jenlion]

Originally Posted by toughguy

Hey, there is a picture of Bush in the lobby of the building I work in, and he is directly responsible for thousands of civilian Iraqi deaths. At least the Lenin statue has some artistic merit.

Darn it, I'm going to have to go find some other board and give people rep on it, just so I can come back and give Toughguy and Sean rep again.

At any rate, well said.

[509]

Originally Posted by toughguy

Hey, there is a picture of Bush in the lobby of the building I work in, and he is directly responsible for thousands of civilian Iraqi deaths. At least the Lenin statue has some artistic merit.

Right....somewhere between 150 million and 300 million. I guess the artistic merit overides the murder. Sorry I missed that.

[509]

Originally Posted by toughguy

Hey, there is a picture of Bush in the lobby of the building I work in, and he is directly responsible for thousands of civilian Iraqi deaths. At least the Lenin statue has some artistic merit.

Hey, toughguy....I am so pissed at your comment. My father's grandmother was murdered by Lenin and they took the family farm.

As for your comment about civilian deaths in Iraq...I give you this story from my mother.

Born under Stalin and captured for slave labor by Hitler. She sat in a barn and watch the American bombers drop their bombs. The German owner was safe in his bunker with his DOGS who he fed first and took to his shelter. The slaves laborers were left on their own.

I asked my mother how she felt about those bombs raining down. She said she was scared for her life, but knew that those bombs meant that she had a chance at freedom. Now how a 19 year old that lived only under Stalin and Hitler could figure that out and American's living under freedom can't just amazes me. You were blessed by GOD to live in this country.

Her comment was there were only two things wrong with American's.....they don't realize how lucky they are and they are incredibly stupid on how the rest of the world operates.

Sorry for the thread drift....but this hits right at the heart.

[kanhawk]

Just what is the history of this statue anyway? Who is the dope who thought that was a good statue to erect?

[toughguy]

Originally Posted by 509

Hey, toughguy....I am so pissed at your comment. My father's grandmother was murdered by Lenin and they took the family farm.

As for your comment about civilian deaths in Iraq...I give you this story from my mother.

Born under Stalin and captured for slave labor by Hitler. She sat in a barn and watch the American bombers drop their bombs. The German owner was safe in his bunker with his DOGS who he fed first and took to his shelter. The slaves laborers were left on their own.

I asked my mother how she felt about those bombs raining down. She said she was scared for her life, but knew that those bombs meant that she had a chance at freedom. Now how a 19 year old that lived only under Stalin and Hitler could figure that out and American's living under freedom can't just amazes me. You were blessed by GOD to live in this country.

Her comment was there were only two things wrong with American's.....they don't realize how lucky they are and they are incredibly stupid on how the rest of the world operates.

Sorry for the thread drift....but this hits right at the heart.

So let me get this straight...The Iraqi children that were maimed when a bomb dropped on their homes, the hardworking men who were tortured and ethnically cleansed by Shiite/Sunni death squads, the people who were indiscriminately tossed into permanent detention and tortured for false confessiongs.....they should actually be greatful that by the hand of God the Americans found their way to their pitiful country to civilize them? Thats how condescending your anecdote sounds.

P.S. Your comment about being blessed by God is offensive, I am not a christian or a member of any other religious or spiritual group.