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03-16-2009, 01:53 PM
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Seattle officially a one newspaper town
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer announced today it will cease publication as of Tuesday 3/17. It will continue an on-line edition. I would expect more and more of these moves in cities all across the country in the next 1-2 years.
On a side note, I have a parent who is a stroke victim who can't navigate a computer, but can still read the paper. If newspapers go away, many older consumers are going to be out of luck. But anyone over the age of about 60 today doesn't seem to matter. Very sad.
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03-16-2009, 02:13 PM
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03-16-2009, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pw72
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer announced today it will cease publication as of Tuesday 3/17. It will continue an on-line edition. I would expect more and more of these moves in cities all across the country in the next 1-2 years.
On a side note, I have a parent who is a stroke victim who can't navigate a computer, but can still read the paper. If newspapers go away, many older consumers are going to be out of luck. But anyone over the age of about 60 today doesn't seem to matter. Very sad.
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That is something to consider. People are getting left out.
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03-16-2009, 11:19 PM
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What about The Stranger? Seattle Weekly? Those are not newspapers?
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03-17-2009, 01:20 AM
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The Stranger and the Seattle Weekly have maybe two decent articles in each issue.
I don't see how navigating a computer is harder than handling a newspaper.
One issue with newspapers is that only a small percentage of them are recycled. I've collected many a bundle of papers at coffee shops just before they were thrown them in the trash.
WA businesses will have an easier time getting away with crimes now, if only because the Seattle Times won't have much competition from the online PI. I recall some crimes that were first exposed in the paper, like the outlandish case of prosecutorial abuse in Wenatchee in the 1990s.
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03-17-2009, 01:29 AM
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Oh, yeah!
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How do you use a laptop when you're sitting on the can? I'm not Bill Gates. I'm just a man who reads his Sunday paper....after a hearty breakfast.....oh...nevermind.......
COUPONS!! WHAT ABOUT COUPONS?
BTW, I'm actually one of the 199,000 people who get the Times.
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Hrmmm....where do you think newspapers get the revenue to pay reporters to get the hard news? What internet newspaper can you say, "They've got a viable business model...and really have it going on?" None. None come to mind. The PI is dead. With a capital D.
Sites like FARK and drudge and Yahoo, MSNBC, et. al. pull their stories from real live reporters from real live networks and real live newspapers. IF all paper newspapers were to fail, would you still think computer news would be better or worse?
I vote worse. It's like me saying, "Parks with kid's playground equipment is STUPID.", because I don't have any children. I can use the park without the kid's stuff there. You don't need kid's stuff there. The kids can play at McDonald's...and get a delicious cheeseburger, fries, shake and apple pie. They can ingest 2000 calories and burn off 50. It's a decent trade off.
After all...they can just play somewhere else. I see the point, and I know they had to fail. I wasn't rooting for them to, though. They had value. Unfortunately, they couldn't condense that value into profitability. That's a shame.
/sigh
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03-17-2009, 01:37 AM
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How do you use a laptop when you're sitting on the can? I'm not Bill Gates. I'm just a man who reads his Sunday paper....after a hearty breakfast.....oh...nevermind.......
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Maybe I'm on the can right now  One word: netbooks
I've been an avid reader of the PI and will miss it. I almost always read discarded papers though, to help the environment.
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03-17-2009, 02:04 AM
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Oh, yeah!
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I can't kill a fly with a rolled up netbook.....can't pack dishes in it either!
When I was first stationed in Japan, (1991-1994) I had my little (10,000 population) hometown newspaper sent to me there. People used to laugh at me for getting it...but when I was done, they would read it too.
They would say to me, "Dude. This paper has an article about, "LuluBell went to visit Christine after church and had a nice dinner together." and I'd say, "Yep. Not a lot of murder, not a lot of crime, just good folks getting together, and passing the time."
Compare that to Atlanta (Atlanta Journal Constitution.). That paper reads like something out of a war zone. Did you hear about the cops that killed a 92 year old grandmother and planted drugs at the scene? They got less than 5 years and had to pay $2000 each for her funeral expenses. That's Atlanta.
Atlanta News, Sports, Atlanta Weather, Business News | ajc.com
Click that... no wait...
'Little Houdini' captured in Florida
Fugitive caught who escaped at a Waffle House and caused a lockdown of KSU.Latest headlines »
Everyday, I saw and watched that city fall apart. From 1999 to 2003. Seattle is so, so. SO much better than that hell hole.
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03-17-2009, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Heiwos
The Stranger and the Seattle Weekly have maybe two decent articles in each issue.
WA businesses will have an easier time getting away with crimes now, if only because the Seattle Times won't have much competition from the online PI. I recall some crimes that were first exposed in the paper, like the outlandish case of prosecutorial abuse in Wenatchee in the 1990s.
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Helios-- Excellent point on the Wenatchee Witch Trials. The entire fiasco was exposed only because of the newspaper reporters doing research. As far as I recall however, after the newspaper stories reported the horrible injustice, our governor at that time Mr Locke did everything possible to get it swept under the carpet. There was really no result, as far as I recall, just a newspaper story. Nobody even lost their jobs and that sick agency responsible for the entire thing, DHS, is bigger than ever.
While we are on the subject, in the early 1980s there was a rape case. A guy went to jail. My family knew him. His name was King, if I recall correctly. While he languished in jail, a local newspaper reporter dug into the case and found enough evidence to have the entire thing overturned. He got out of jail, then died shortly after release due to a heart attack.
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03-17-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pw72
On a side note, I have a parent who is a stroke victim who can't navigate a computer, but can still read the paper. If newspapers go away, many older consumers are going to be out of luck. But anyone over the age of about 60 today doesn't seem to matter. Very sad.
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If Sir Steven Hawking can use a computer, anybody can, provided proper accommodations are made.
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