04-01-2007, 11:17 AM
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thanks to all of you who post your opionions here...it does help
We are moving to Seattle this spring (going to househunt next weekend)...two things have me concerned....the weather and the traffic (surprise!)
1...we live in Rochester NY...the second grayest city in the US....so if this is fine to me...is Seattle much different? On the plus side, you certainly wont have snow and freezing temps from october to april!! We have also lived in Ireland and in Denmark and have held up just fine...but people have never gone on about the weather with such a passion as they have on these boards (before Rochester we lived in Austin for 3 yrs but I think that is another thread
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2 DH is going to work in everett....commute from kirkland or north redmond...he has driven to both during his normal commute times and I have been keeping an eye on the traffic updates...so far it seems like it is usually event free....lots of miles but fast....he will usually leave for work around 6:30 am so that wont be a problem but returning at 5:30 is potentially dicey...any thoughts....if most days he will be fine then I am not going to worry about it....we really want to be in the midst of things which is why we have focused on the eastside....out of curiousity, could we live in north seattle and have an easier commute? Any place with great schools....queen anne?
thanks for all your help....these boards are really a great resource
Theresa
04-01-2007, 11:59 AM
Location: Somewhere close to Heber, AR
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I spent a month in Watertown in the winter two different times, so I have a limited view of what it's like there, but my guess is that you won't have any problems moving/adjusting to the Seattle area.
When it snows, it will be different as most people in the I5 corridor have no clue as to how to drive on snow.
2" and it's a mess, 4-6" and it's a parking lot, with many people abandoning their vehicles on the roads, mostly on the ramps and blocking anyone from getting off the highways.
Not entirely their fault as there just isn't enough snow handling equipment in the area.
The snow is different, as it's not usually cold enough to make the same know of snow you're used to. Seattle gets that heavy sticky stuff that packs into slippery soft ice and does make it difficult to drive on.
I'll leave the commute question to someone more familiar with it.
04-01-2007, 01:00 PM
Location: Monterey Bay, California -- watching the sea lions, whales and otters! :D
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Being from Buffalo, originally, and having lived in Seattle, I really thought I would not have a problem there. I was wrong. I know Rochester gets a lot of snow, but snowy seasons often have sunny skies. The grey clouds in Seattle outnumber the greyness there. It doesn't sound logical, but it is.
It sounds like you are going anyway, so it's not a matter of choice. However, keep in mind that the weather there is both like a constant Spring rain or mist like next to Niagara Falls. It is very grey most of the time, even in-between rain, itself. Snow is actually drier. That dampness just doesn't dry.
I'd suggest that when you get there to buy full spectrum light bulbs for all over your house -- seriously. And make sure you have a really good raincoat. You will still need winter coats because the chill from the dampness is cold, and often houses are not as well-insulated or have as good a heating system.
It is a lovely area with lots to do, but you will be relegated to the indoors much of the time. If you have small children, be aware of looming ear infections -- I've heard of kids there having tubes put in their ears for over ten years because it is so damp the ears don't dry. If you have the money and resources, then you will be lucky to take trips out of there into the sun -- much like people from Western New York might go to Florida.
On the plus side, there is little snow (although I now realize I prefer some snow over all that rain), so you won't have to worry about winterizing things too much. But then again, you won't have the beauty of a snowfall, either.
Also, Spring flowers bloom earlier, which is nice. Many people have lovely gardens in their yards. I would think most Seattle schools would be okay -- it's a fairly safe city with good resources. Queen Anne is a very nice part of town.
Summers are gorgeous there. The rest of the year, rain, rain, rain. No, not 24 hours a day, but sometimes it feels like that. And there is also a Buffalo (I assume people from Rochester go, too) Club that gets together and has chicken wings and pizza and Canadian beer! (I don't have the contact number, howevever, it may be advertised in the local paper.) Lots of people were just glad to get out of the snow - I was glad to leave the snow but disappointed in all the wetness -- I hadn't anticipated that level of wetness. But I was lucky, at the time I was only renting, so I didn't invest in a house and was able to move and get another job elsewhere.
It's a very laid-back westcoast culture -- not as direct nor open as the eastcoast in that way, but very polite.
Since you are already moving there, I think the only real advice I can give is to get those full-spectrum light bulbs and a good raincoat! Good luck to you!
04-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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No doubt Seattle has alot of overcast days. But contrary to popular belief on average the "rainiest" months are November, December, & January. With the exception of last November which was the wettest in recorded history of the area. Expect temperatures to be between 40-70 degrees on average which is mild and temperate. Nine months or 11 months is a blatant exaggeration. Is perpetuated by people who don't like Seattle becasuse it doesn't get 300 days of sun. But here was what they want tell you Seattle's air quality some of the best in the nation its green year round and the moderate temperatures allow you to be outdoors year round. Did I mention Seattle is surrronded by water and mountains one of the most scenic places in the country.
04-01-2007, 03:09 PM
Location: Monterey Bay, California -- watching the sea lions, whales and otters! :D
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I have a feeling that Seattletony has not lived in Rochester, so I'm just pointing out that being from the area you are moving from is still different than Seattle. And no one has ever said it is "rain" 11 months of the year, although 11 months of the year there IS dampness, mist, and rain .. and the thing that bothers many people: the thick grey clouds. Think of the mist standing next to Niagara Falls -- that is very common there. (If you're in Rochester, I'm pretty sure you've probably been to the Falls.)
The reality is you have already made the decision to move there, so I think it is a moot point. And, likely, you will find that no snow is nice, but that the Spring-like weather year-round can be daunting, if you are not used to it. Lots of people think snow is "bad," however, it's a pain to drive in, and yes, having to shovel yourself out of your house
is also a pain, but snow is drier and you get sunny skies.
So, I think that since your decision has already been made, and you will either enjoy the weather or learn to deal with it, that you might want to go over to the "What I like/love about Seattle" thread, as that is probably more what you need to hear about.
As I think every single person who has
not enjoyed the Seattle weather has said, it is a great city. If you're not raised there, though, and you have experienced different environments, it IS different there -- no way to get around it. Obviously, it is wet there a lot of the time, otherwise people wouldn't be talking about it.
I guess I've said enough. Some people like the weather, some tolerate it, some love it there -- you're hearing from a little bit of each.
AND as I have repeatedly said, it IS a really nice city with a lot going on, so I am sure you WILL enjoy it, regardless. Good luck to you, and have a safe trip there!
P.S. Maybe Seattletony will be willing to show you around!
04-02-2007, 01:36 AM
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Just a quick note on your commute question, Theresa. Your DH will be actually reverse commuting if going to Everett from the eastside in the AM and returning to the eastside in the PM. So yes, in this case, the commute should be fairly good going NB on I-405 in the AM and southbound in the PM. He'll have pockets of congestion but like I say, the heavy traffic will be going in the opposite direction.
Conclusion? Yes, stay in the L'dub school district even though the commute may be better from the north Seattle suburbs, the Lake Washington School District #414 is highly rated.
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04-02-2007, 08:06 AM
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thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply....most of all, I am glad to hear that the commute wont be complete murder and we are looking forward to enjoying the summer before the rain returns....BTW it is forecast for snow in Rochester this weekend...so Seattle weather is looking pretty good right now
Theresa
04-07-2007, 02:38 PM
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I just have to hop in on this thread. We've lived in Rochester for 12 years - and my husband is currently talking to recruiters about a job relocation in Seattle.
First let me say that Seattle is my favorite city, having visited it numerous times in the past. Weather-wise, it isn't that different from Rochester, actually. Except that we get mounds of snow and you all get rain in the winter. One of the things I love about Seattle is the temperate climate. In Rochester, we quite literally get about 6 months worth of winter. In fact right this moment it is snowing quite hard. I'd say, weatherwise its pretty much a tradeoff. YOu just have to decide whether you like snow or rain better. JMO.
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Needless to say, I'm really hoping my husband accepts the job. I think Seattle is absolutely lovely. My concern is only the traffic, which is something we don't have a problem with AT ALL in upstate New York. Otherwise, I'm pretty stoked.
10-12-2007, 09:50 PM
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Is it just me, or is the saying "the grass is always greener on the other side" applicable here?
I lived in Buffalo for 10 years in undergrad/grad and somehow managed to survive long very cold gray months of winter, never the wiser until I came to Florida. Now I can't imagine tolerating those months of trudging through the snow and praying for summer. HOWEVER, after six years in the lovely Florida sunshine, I've found the unrelenting summer heat is finally getting to me (it's still almost 90 every day and it's October for cripes sake!).
My husband and I have friends and family in Seattle--first time we visited, HATED the weather (cold, wet, grey in September already), next visit was in February--crisp, cool , sunshine every day and Mt. Rainer looking gorgeous. last visit was this May and again so beautiful--cool days and you could actually sit outside and enjoy the sun (unlike here most of the day once it heats up). We want to relocate to Seattle now and our Florida friends think we are nuts--the gray rainy legend being what it is and won't we miss the sunshine and beaches, etc; but let's be serious, with two full time jobs, a child and regular errands and things to do, we don't see as much of the beaches as we did on our Florida vacations!
....just some food for thought....
10-13-2007, 03:50 AM
Location: Seattle area
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I would say Seattle has much better climate than Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Anchorage, New York and Boston
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Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)