Is Seattle overrated? (opinions)

[Ira500]

Camden, New Jersey is a cesspool. Seattle may not be the perfect place for everybody, but it's far from cesspooldom. As to whether it's overrated, a place can be quite nice and still be overrated.

[silas777]

Originally Posted by Jennibc

Wow, that's harsh. For all of things I didn't like about living there, I don't think I could equate it to a cesspool. I actually think it's a nice place to visit, especially when one is lucky enough to hit a period of time when the sun shines.

The (cesspool) relates to the whole Seattle culture, traffic, that smug kind of liberal elitism, and of course then there are areas such as Freemont and cap hill that are just.........................well cess pools! On a hot sunny day it is Beautiful down on the water. It may just be I am not big on city life period.

[JesseJB]

Originally Posted by silas777

The (cesspool) relates to the whole Seattle culture, traffic, that smug kind of liberal elitism, and of course then there are areas such as Freemont and cap hill that are just.........................well cess pools! On a hot sunny day it is Beautiful down on the water. It may just be I am not big on city life period.

Guess you'll be very happy with the opposite:

Ignorant conservatism, the opposite of Fremont and Cap Hill (which would be a tract home development in Yelm).

I'll stay in my cesspool.

[W & C]

Originally Posted by JesseJB

Ignorant conservatism, the opposite of Fremont and Cap Hill (which would be a tract home development in Yelm).

Apparently, the opposite would be Renton and South Park where Hooters is considered to be "too upscale"..

Retail Report | Hooters too upscale for us, some Renton, South Park locals say | Seattle Times Newspaper

Honestly, I lived in bible belt Midwest for 15 years and have never in my life heard anyone refer to Hooters as "upscale"..hahaha

[shoegal111]

Originally Posted by W & C

Apparently, the opposite would be Renton and South Park where Hooters is considered to be "too upscale"..

Retail Report | Hooters too upscale for us, some Renton, South Park locals say | Seattle Times Newspaper

Honestly, I lived in bible belt Midwest for 15 years and have never in my life heard anyone refer to Hooters as "upscale"..hahaha

That's too funny.

[CoastieTX]

Originally Posted by JesseJB

Guess you'll be very happy with the opposite:

Ignorant conservatism, the opposite of Fremont and Cap Hill (which would be a tract home development in Yelm).

I'll stay in my cesspool.

Now, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. I'm a middle of the road type of guy, but I did live in Texas for ten years, and it was full of nothing but escapees from all those "progressive" states like Califas (Texmex for California), everywhere in New England, and yes, even my good 'ole home-state of Washington.

You can argue politics all you want, but the fact remains if you look at the migration patterns taking place in this country, the draw is definitely towards the traditionally conservative states. There's more than just a few people on these boards who have left Washington for places like Texas and couldn't be happier.

Personally, I don't think there's much progressive, or pleasant, about the lifestyles of most working-class Seattleites. The combination of all the green laws and politically-correct standard of having dual-income households has done nothing but force housing and day-care costs to soar, causing people to spend a disproportionate amount of time working and enduring hellish commutes just to make their basic ends meet.

I've lived in a lot of different places and seen the results of different prevailing political ideologies. And despite having been raised and educated in Washington State, I remain unenlightened by Seattle's "progressiveness." You don't have to look very hard, or far, to find other communities where people seem to be a lot happier, and work a lot less.

[Under The Clouds]

Originally Posted by CoastieTX

You can argue politics all you want, but the fact remains if you look at the migration patterns taking place in this country, the draw is definitely towards the traditionally conservative states. There's more than just a few people on these boards who have left Washington for places like Texas and couldn't be happier.

How does your theory explain why states such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Kansas (to cite a few traditional values states) haven't had major population influxes? The fact is that Sunbelt states that have received large numbers of migrants have become Blue over time, or at least become less conservative. In the 70's and 80's, California was largely Republican (Orange County is the last major remnant of that voting bloc). Florida is now solidly a swing state, as is New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado. Both Texas and Georgia, as well as Arizona, showed better results for the Democratic candidate in the last Presidential election than they had in previous years (in contrast to Alabama or Arkansas or West Virginia, which have become more conservative). Bottom line: the high growth Sun Belt states are becoming more liberal, not less. Get on the Blue Wave, Coastie!

Also, I don't see a problem with dual-income households, but I guess you do?

[CoastieTX]

Originally Posted by Under The Clouds

How does your theory explain why states such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Kansas (to cite a few traditional values states) haven't had major population influxes? The fact is that Sunbelt states that have received large numbers of migrants have become Blue over time, or at least become less conservative. In the 70's and 80's, California was largely Republican (Orange County is the last major remnant of that voting bloc). Florida is now solidly a swing state, as is New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado. Both Texas and Georgia, as well as Arizona, showed better results for the Democratic candidate in the last Presidential election than they had in previous years (in contrast to Alabama or Arkansas or West Virginia, which have become more conservative). Bottom line: the high growth Sun Belt states are becoming more liberal, not less. Get on the Blue Wave, Coastie!

Also, I don't see a problem with dual-income households, but I guess you do?

People's political affiliations aren't fickle and don't change just because they relocate. It only makes sense that these newcomers change the political landscapes of the states they flock to.

The states you mentioned have seen large influxes of newcomers, particularly northwest Arkansas. As has North Carolina. Montana and Idaho too. And California - ooh, contentious topic. Perhaps it's no longer a red state because its republicans have been displaced by illegal aliens?

I am not a male chauvinist and have no problem with dual-income households and women wanting to join the workforce. But the unintended consequences of this are undeniable and backed by numerous studies. When households earn more, housing costs more, and everybody's then caught in what's called the "dual income trap" and the net effect, despite higher earnings, is an even higher cost of living at the expense of a lower quality of life. In much the same way, the unintended consequences of the humanitarian idea of making loans available to everyone did far more harm than good by causing housing prices to skyrocket to unsustainable levels.

[shoegal111]

Originally Posted by CoastieTX

People's political affiliations aren't fickle and don't change just because they relocate. It only makes sense that these newcomers change the political landscapes of the states they flock to.

The states you mentioned have seen large influxes of newcomers, particularly northwest Arkansas. As has North Carolina. Montana and Idaho too. And California - ooh, contentious topic. Perhaps it's no longer a red state because its republicans have been displaced by illegal aliens?

I am not a male chauvinist and have no problem with dual-income households and women wanting to join the workforce. But the unintended consequences of this are undeniable and backed by numerous studies. When households earn more, housing costs more, and everybody's then caught in what's called the "dual income trap" and the net effect, despite higher earnings, is an even higher cost of living at the expense of a lower quality of life. In much the same way, the unintended consequences of the humanitarian idea of making loans available to everyone did far more harm than good by causing housing prices to skyrocket to unsustainable levels.

I was going to say the same thing about NW Arkansas and North Carolina, LOL. And don't forget South Carolina, Greenville, has grown immensely.

[Anders15]

This thread is never going to go anywhere.