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Old 10-02-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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You should write a piece about this for a local paper. So much of our city's history is well-buried. It would enlighten many people.
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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By the way, 1st and James (or Yelser) is designated "Little Italy" in Seattle. I read an article about it last week somewhere online.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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By the way, 1st and James (or Yelser) is designated "Little Italy" in Seattle. I read an article about it last week somewhere online.


But it's not because any Italians live there. There are a couple of Italian restaurants on the same block, owned by the same guy, who self proclaimed it " Little Italy".
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:59 AM
 
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I went to high school in Renton in the '80s. Looking back at my yearbooks I was surprised to find that many students had Italian surnames, but I don't recall anyone identifying as Italian-American, or mentioning Mama's cooking, or doing anything Italian on heritage day at school. My grandfather mined coal with many Italians in the town of Black Diamond, and perceived Italians as the dominant ethnic group in the area at that time.

I recall one Italian-American friend as a child, and that was it. There's someone near me who flies an Italian flag next to the Stars and Stripes outside their house, which is probably the only Italian identification I've ever seen in Renton or Seattle. Borachinni's (sp?) bakery remains in business in Rainier valley from my understanding.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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Italian-Americans, yes. Italian-American neighborhood, no.
Once upon a time there was a neighborhood called "Garlic Gulch" In the Rainier Valley area.
It was destroyed when Interstate 5 was built. Mamma Mia!
You're dating yourself. he he...

The West Coast ethnic neighborhoods tend to be of the Asian persuasion for the same reasons those on the East Coast are European. Seattle's other ethnic neighborhood is Ballard. Home to the "Ya sure ya betchas! (Scandahoovians we like to call me)

The Slavics and the Scandanavians control the fishing industry and those folks settled near the neighborhood named Ballard.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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and unlike most parts of the country, Columbus Day is almost nonexistent here. Businesses and local/state government are open. Only way you know it's a holiday is because there's no mail delivery....

Sad!
Banks are closed too.

Personally I don't celebrate a guy who was a murdering bastard anyway.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:22 AM
 
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As a child I was not aware of demographic patterns or people who might be termed 'different' (social sense) in the community where I lived. This was between Georgetown and Beacon hill in Seattle. The location was 1070 Ferdinand St. telephone Rainer 8249. However this changed because of humanitarian acts by elders in my family. I was not born at the time.

The stories of kindness were however told to me. Apparently several Italian families had moved into the area. Italians were persecuted in Seattle, Washington because of their immigration status. This was encouraged by the Washington State Congressman Albert Johnson (Johnson-Reed Act) and Klan activities. His tenure was from 1913 to 1933.

Many Italians attended the local Catholic Church, St Georges and went on to University or seminary studies. During the 20'3 and 30's my family supported the local Italians by allowing them to use the phone and providing the use of fine lace linen for the Italian Feast of St Joseph. I recall being told how the Italians used peanuts in their food during the Feast because it was the season of Lent. The linen used for the altar was retured in pristine order. During the grape growing season the Italians made wine which could be smelled throughout the area. When we had an excess of fruit we placed it by the road so that anyone could take what they wished. We went to school together and families never lost contact unless it was by death. One particular Italian elder attended the Funeral of a beloved family member. She said to us "I just had to come because she was so kind".

During the Second WW when Italians were deprived of civil liberties there was always a word or deed of encouragement from our family. Further the local Catholic school and Church St. Georges assisted both Italian and German refugees during WWII. From childhood I have fond memories of Italians, their history and way of life.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

Dr. I.M. Spence-Lewis

I'm betting you know my Aunt Anna Marie and Uncle Joe. Whose 5 kids attended St. George and where they still worship to this day.

My Italian Uncle Joe who's an absolute cooking machine.

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Old 09-08-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Olympia Tumwater Area
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I went to high school in Renton in the '80s. Looking back at my yearbooks I was surprised to find that many students had Italian surnames, but I don't recall anyone identifying as Italian-American, or mentioning Mama's cooking, or doing anything Italian on heritage day at school. My grandfather mined coal with many Italians in the town of Black Diamond, and perceived Italians as the dominant ethnic group in the area at that time.

I recall one Italian-American friend as a child, and that was it. There's someone near me who flies an Italian flag next to the Stars and Stripes outside their house, which is probably the only Italian identification I've ever seen in Renton or Seattle. Borachinni's (sp?) bakery remains in business in Rainier valley from my understanding.

The reason why us Italian descendent don't hyphen ourselves Italian-American because we are Americans and not second class citizen. When someone or a group is labeled with an hyphen, automatically become second class citizens. The proof lies within communities today, black neighborhoods (labeled African-American, latino neighborhoods (Latino-American), and Asian neighborhoods Chinese-American, Japanese American, etc... You may disagree, but these groups could have flourished like the Italians when they assimilated to the American society. We fit right in and interwoven in the American Society. The only time I heard someone stereo type and racism toward Italians is when I said my parents are Italian. Now that makes me feel 2nd class citizen, but as being American and identify myself as one all the crap stops. You may disagree with me, but think about it.

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Old 09-08-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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I wondered the same thing about the Irish when I first moved to Seattle and had to dig much deeper than I would in NYC but when I did, I uncovered quite a vibrant community...

funnily enough, I have been told that this little area in Crown Hill where there are a couple of Italian restaurants, a Gelato shop owned by an old Italian man and Cascioppo Bros Italian Meat Market, was a home and still is to a small degree, to an Italian community. I love Cascioppo Brothers...reminds me of back east. Of course Mario Batali is from here and Sulumi, his families place is renowned around the country! I have heard that Batali has been dropping hints about opening a Seattle restaurant which would be fantastic! I would be the first in line!
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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It's probably too cold for most Italians. SF has quite an Italian history, and they were drawn to the fishing industry. Hello, fishing? But they never went north to Portland and Seattle, probably because of climate.

I'm an exception, but then again I'm also half-German. I detest hot weather and that's why I picked the Seattle area. California is rotting from the inside out and unlivable, but Texas and Florida were out of the question.
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