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Old 02-20-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Well, I have been beating this drum forever and just get called a liar when I talk about my experiences with drug use in Seattle, but I work in a Seattle neighborhood ER as a nurse, and every day we deal with drug seekers and drug users coming in looking for percocet and dilaudid. They are usually unemployed people in their 20s, but we do see some older and some younger. Harborview has it way worse.
It is very present in Seattle in all areas, but I have been looking hard to find a place anymore that doesn't have a big drug population, and can't seem to find it anywhere. Seattle is probably going to be the same as any other place you can come from or go to. My neighbor to the right of me has a son who uses crushed Percocet and doesn't have a problem saying so. My step-daughter learned to use cocaine here in Brier going to Mountlake Terrace High School (We didn't find out about this until after she moved out - It isn't something she was bragging about and they kept it very hush-hush). I work in North Seattle, and like I said, we see it every day.
America seems to have two opinions about it - either they are ambivilant to the problem because either they don't see it personally in their own circles or they just think it is normal and nothing can be done about it, or they think it is cute and cool and anti-establishment.
Seattle is very tollerant of this kind of behavior and for what ever reasons seems to not want to address this problem. The police don't care because the general population of Seattle doesn't care.
Anyway, my two cents....
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Old 02-20-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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Just adding one more thing -
In today's seattletimes/localnews.com:

17 teens in Richmond busted for dealing drugs, including meth. Some were as young as 15-years-old.
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Old 02-23-2010, 12:41 AM
 
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Default Drug Abuse Psychiatry And Lifestyle; Mormons And Buddhists

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Well, I have been beating this drum forever and just get called a liar when I talk about my experiences with drug use in Seattle, but I work in a Seattle neighborhood ER as a nurse, ..... (trucation)
Thanks for your insights and perhaps the best advice as always is a home alarm system, and multiple anti-theft devices per each vehicle ? ? ?

I think that is psychiatric care was free, then perhaps more people would be on anti-depressants / anti-panic disorder meds, and less people would be on drugs.

Unfortunately, in much of the US, psychiatrists refuse to take medical insurance - or - community psychiatric services are inaccessible at the time they are needed (in urgent crisis scenarios when time is of the essence) -- for a variety of reasons, including supply and demand.

And, the Medical establishment has refused to follow Orthomolecular Medicine / Psychiatry, developed by Dr. Abram Hoffer. And, our far left pro-national health care politicians won't observe the Mormons in Utah, where healthy lifestyles (as part of the religion) result in much lower health care costs. I think that tobacco should be made illegal (even financial guru Bob Brinker says this, also read "The Signs Of Jonah" by Everett Triplett).

I think accessibility to state and local care, and lifestyle based on either a religion and/or other belief system (i.e. Buddhism) is the answer.
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Old 02-23-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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Good points -
I am of the opinion that we need to stop looking at symptoms and start looking at causes of drug use. Why are people feeling such a hole in their lives that they need to fill it with a high of some form? A lot of the people we see abusing narcotics aren't the mentally ill (although we do see quite a lot of these people also - these are the people I don't get upset over. They can't help being who they are.). I think a lot of it has to do with personal isolation, hopeless, boredom, and a feeling of being overwhelmed in today's society.
Humans aren't meant to live in anonymous mega-populations of strangers. This is the modern lifestyle. Healthy, stable families are becoming non-existant, and we have no community, in the true sense.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:28 AM
 
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You got off on the wrong foot already by saying you don't care about pot. That's because it's probably your drug of choice. They are all bad, and weed addicts are as non-productive and nefarious as any meth addict I've ever met. To be blunt, if you're looking for drugs, you can find them anywhere in America. If you're looking for a solution and want to stop obsessing about drugs, find a place with alot of activities. The more choices there are, the less attractive drugs appear in comparison. If you have kids, don't pretend that drugs are ok or don't exist, but point out how fun or rewarding the alternatives are. Good luck and let us know where you chose to live and if it's what you expected!
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:02 PM
 
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Good points -
I am of the opinion that we need to stop looking at symptoms and start looking at causes of drug use. Why are people feeling such a hole in their lives that they need to fill it with a high of some form? A lot of the people we see abusing narcotics aren't the mentally ill (although we do see quite a lot of these people also - these are the people I don't get upset over. They can't help being who they are.). I think a lot of it has to do with personal isolation, hopeless, boredom, and a feeling of being overwhelmed in today's society.
Humans aren't meant to live in anonymous mega-populations of strangers. This is the modern lifestyle. Healthy, stable families are becoming non-existant, and we have no community, in the true sense.
Reasons vary for drug usage. For some it's a fun, recreational activity; for others it's a means to escape modern day life and self medicate... Now reasons for the escape vary as well. Drugs won't stop, the void in people's lives won't fill (collectively).
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:10 AM
 
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Default Seattles meth problem is out of control!!

These other posts are four years old. My brother is a police officer in Seattle and tells me the craziest stories about day to day Meth related arrests. Apparently Meth has taken over the city around 2012, although they are trying to keep it quiet. People being arrested for Meth are doing time, but not getting charged with Meth possession. This is one way they try to keep it quiet. Seattle is a beautiful city, and I have many friends and family there that I often visit, and usually enjoy myself. But even just visiting for a week or two at a time, even I have noticed the problem. I have been offered Crystal Meth several times just going out for a drink with my brother and his wife. My friends have told me terrible stories about the epidemic there and it sounds awful. Police are doing nothing about it, and many of my relatives are looking to relocate just for these types of reasons, which include also heroin and their new legal weed. People from Seattle are a proud people, you might say VERY COCKY, that is why they try to keep it quiet, which has just caused their Drug Epidemic to snowball. What a shame..
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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I agree, it's a beautiful city(for the most part) and it's a shame the drug culture there is so prevalent (had a friend who had a Meth problem). I was offered pot yesterday at Pike Place while walking(I guess it's legal now and it's being sold everywhere) but have heard people opposing this drug culture. Actually it has taken over America, perhaps it's too late, not just for Seattle.
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Old 12-24-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle, originally from SF Bay Area
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I agree, it's a beautiful city(for the most part) and it's a shame the drug culture there is so prevalent (had a friend who had a Meth problem). I was offered pot yesterday at Pike Place while walking(I guess it's legal now and it's being sold everywhere) but have heard people opposing this drug culture. Actually it has taken over America, perhaps it's too late, not just for Seattle.
I walk through the market every day after work and the offers for pot have been going on a long time, but since legalization it's much more open and obvious, even with police nearby. I do see meth heads among the homeless around the area, too, witnessing an occasional drug deal on Pine between 2nd and 5th.
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Old 12-24-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: North Beach, Seattle
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I agree, it's a beautiful city(for the most part) and it's a shame the drug culture there is so prevalent (had a friend who had a Meth problem). I was offered pot yesterday at Pike Place while walking(I guess it's legal now and it's being sold everywhere) but have heard people opposing this drug culture. Actually it has taken over America, perhaps it's too late, not just for Seattle.
On the other hand I don't think it's worse than it was 15+ years ago. The drug problems back then were a lot more obvious. There were numerous crack houses in the CD, there were a lot of addicts just sitting on Broadway looking half dead with tracks up and down their arms. Needles were more commonly discarded in public. That stuff still goes on of course but it's not as obvious.

Personally I don't see the public intoxication/use of pot to be nearly the problem that meth or heroin is. The kind of erratic behavior that meth causes both when people are on it or coming down off it is far more dangerous. Stoners aren't anywhere near as threatening as a meth or heroin addict that is actively seeking the drug. Sure, some people steal pot and steal for it, but it's really in a different class than the depraved, desperate, menacing condition the hard addicts are in.
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