Tsunami =preparation and evacuation lessons in real time

[Jerseykat]

Depends on the shipper actually for Japan. I know Fedex was not taking shipments for Narita/Tokyo and north for about 2-3 days. But today lifted that and are now only restricting to the heavily affected north and Sendai region. Mainly as there is no infrastructure to transport goods in these areas. As for KI tablets in Japan they are being supplied by the Japanese government. Which in turn buys in massive bulk shipments. They go direct to the source and have stockpiled this prior to this happening.

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by ChrisC

I've come to the conclusion that not having any degree of preparedness is in reality just selfishness--assuming that the guy next door or down the street will be there and WANT to be there for you. He won't have any problems of his own or a family of his own to tend to. All the folks around will support you in a disaster. I suppose it's an appealing teddy bear dream. But it is just a dream.

Here's a better idea. How about YOU be the one that all the unprepared depend on. You stock the TP and you stock the food and you have a couple extra shelters on your property. You can be the hero for the unprepared rather than the burden on everyone else.

But you are thinking Mainland! Hawaii is not the mainland and people don;t think like people think on the mainland.

Everyone has supplies on hand because we stock up since we have no idea when something will be available. This has nothing to do with disasters but is based on island living, you get when you can get. But when a disaster like a tsunami hits, nothing says you will be able to get home to your supplies. Since most people on Pacific islands live closer to the shorelines (inland is usually uninhabited volcanic mountains) some disasters forces you from the main areas to the remote areas.

So you may be 100% prepared with 20,000 gallons of water, 1,000 gallons of gasoline, generators, water purification, food for a year, portable operating room, duck tape and plastic sheets to circle the earth, butsince your unable to get back to the house, what do you do? You hit whatever store is open (most majopr markets are located in the evacuation areas and close) and buy some supplies. But since they are the remote locations, and donl;t have 1,000 cans of each 300 variety of baked beans sitting on the shelf (lucky if there are 50 cans of 2 varierty all total) it doesn;t take much to wuipe the shelfs clean and make for a mainland tv station hype of a run on the stores.

What I;m saying is when your sitting watching TV in the comfort of your home and not experiencing the actual disaster and within 20 miles of dozens of fully stocked stores with major warehouses down the road, people have the luxuary of making off the arse comments about other people located in the middle of the pacific ocean as being unprepared when they ahve no idea about the reality and facts. What good is all the survival gear and supplies if you can't get to them when you need it?

So the people on these pacific islands out in the middle of the ocean have developed a kindered spirit of helping everyone else in times of need and sharing (even if they have so little) because they know the reality of what's going on, and they don;t make dumb comments about who is and isn;t prepared bacuse emergencies on islands are not the same as an emergency on the mainland. I bet most of the people on Hawaii have experiences at least the top three disasters, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes all int he last decade. What has been the most serious emergency those on the mainland have experience - a shortage of 2% milk for their coffee?

[lifelongMOgal]

Pacificflights, you have made an excellent arguement as to why a bug-out-bag carried in one's vehicle or daily bag would be an valuable asset on the islands. 24-48 hrs. of supplies for one person does not take up much room.

Regardless of where they occur, emergencies are emergencies and the better we learn how to prepare for those most likely to occur at our given locations, the less stressful our experience will be and the higher the likely hood for survival.

Perhaps it escaped your attention but the mainland its emergencies too be it from earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, blizzards, ice storms, flooding, or civil unrest. Those of us who prepare with food stores never have to face the life threatening emergency(to the lives of others) of no 2% for our coffee.

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

Making note to self.... get 30,000 rolls of TP

Man with bidet no need TP.
Man with portable bidet no need TP.
Man with hammock tent no need tipi, either.
Ugh!

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

Man with bidet no need TP.
Man with portable bidet no need TP.
Man with hammock tent no need tipi, either.
Ugh!

And the 'high tech' version:
Portable Bidet Personal Hygiene System
(Discontinued version)
The Phess Portable Bidet: For Runs On The Run | PoopReport.com

[Mac_Muz]

Originally Posted by PacificFlights

But you are thinking Mainland! Hawaii is not the mainland and people don;t think like people think on the mainland.

Everyone has supplies on hand because we stock up since we have no idea when something will be available. This has nothing to do with disasters but is based on island living, you get when you can get. But when a disaster like a tsunami hits, nothing says you will be able to get home to your supplies. Since most people on Pacific islands live closer to the shorelines (inland is usually uninhabited volcanic mountains) some disasters forces you from the main areas to the remote areas.

So you may be 100% prepared with 20,000 gallons of water, 1,000 gallons of gasoline, generators, water purification, food for a year, portable operating room, duck tape and plastic sheets to circle the earth, butsince your unable to get back to the house, what do you do? You hit whatever store is open (most majopr markets are located in the evacuation areas and close) and buy some supplies. But since they are the remote locations, and donl;t have 1,000 cans of each 300 variety of baked beans sitting on the shelf (lucky if there are 50 cans of 2 varierty all total) it doesn;t take much to wuipe the shelfs clean and make for a mainland tv station hype of a run on the stores.

What I;m saying is when your sitting watching TV in the comfort of your home and not experiencing the actual disaster and within 20 miles of dozens of fully stocked stores with major warehouses down the road, people have the luxuary of making off the arse comments about other people located in the middle of the pacific ocean as being unprepared when they ahve no idea about the reality and facts. What good is all the survival gear and supplies if you can't get to them when you need it?

So the people on these pacific islands out in the middle of the ocean have developed a kindered spirit of helping everyone else in times of need and sharing (even if they have so little) because they know the reality of what's going on, and they don;t make dumb comments about who is and isn;t prepared bacuse emergencies on islands are not the same as an emergency on the mainland. I bet most of the people on Hawaii have experiences at least the top three disasters, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes all int he last decade. What has been the most serious emergency those on the mainland have experience - a shortage of 2% milk for their coffee?

NH gets an effect like that. On ski weekends the stores will stock up on the thursday, and be bare bones empty come monday. Mon-Thurs there is little to buy. Same deal for clerks. You get one clerk Mon- Thurs. 15 on Fri thru Sunday.

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

NH gets an effect like that. On ski weekends the stores will stock up on the thursday, and be bare bones empty come monday. Mon-Thurs there is little to buy. Same deal for clerks. You get one clerk Mon- Thurs. 15 on Fri thru Sunday.

I certainly know what your sayiing.

For Hawaii it's a double whammy because these disasters spring up so fast, the stores are often in the impacted areas and are forced to close, that leaves only the ones outside the impacted area to supply everyone, AND, you have 250,000 tourist who's only emeregency kit is the mini-bar in the hotel room. Just 25% of them shopping for emergency supplies will clean the shelves. But the media makes it look like hords of unprepared local residents when tourist (some who may be preparedness freeks at home) are caught with their pants down as well. Every family on Hawaii has flashklights because of problems with the lectrical grid yet every emergency flashlights fly off the shelves. Its not the residents who are buyiong them but the tourist who didn;t bring one on their 8 day 3 island vacation and now runs to buy what is available.