Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-05-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
5,706 posts, read 9,630,964 times
Reputation: 8932

Advertisements

Episode 59: By Any Means Necessary

Episode 60: Mountain Home | The Perennial Plate
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-09-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
4,731 posts, read 9,946,745 times
Reputation: 3393
There are plenty of wild edibles out there that can be harvested sustainably once you know what they are, where to find them, how to get them, and what to do with them.

I highly recommend getting a reference guide for your location and taking a few foraging expeditions. If there are any scheduled forages with a knowledgeable guide, this is an excellent resource. BEFORE you eat anything you're unsure of, take it into your Co-op Extension and see if they will give you a positive identification since many plants have dangerous look-alikes or must be harvested/prepared in certain ways.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
4,176 posts, read 10,688,423 times
Reputation: 9646
True, MissingAll4Seasons. I knew what every single edible plant was, as well as the poisonous ones, in SC. Then I moved here, and frankly I have NO idea. Are those harmless mushrooms, or are they poisonous? Yikes!!! Is that a ginko tree - here? Nope, can't be. But the leaves are sooo similar! - gotta look more closely at everything.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
4,731 posts, read 9,946,745 times
Reputation: 3393
True Granny - even known species of edible plants can look entirely different from one location to the next due to climate and soil differences. And many plants can look so similar to something else in a different location, but are not those plants at all (nor could they be given your location). What looks edible based on one location, can indeed be poisonous in the location you're actually in, and vice-versa.

Can't tell you how many people end up in the hospital here thinking that the red baneberries are cranberries because 1) red baneberries (opposed to white) are uncommon anywhere else, 2) the plants look very similar, 3) we have 2 types of cranberries up here, and 4) neither of them look exactly like the cranberries you find in the rest of the US. Confusion between the three plants and their berries is oh so very easy just looking at a pic or drawing in a book from one season from somewhere else.

And mushrooms? I'm freakin' paranoid about the ones I know are safe, no way that I would ever eat a wild one that someone totally knowledgeable and trusted didn't show me and I had identified correctly in their presence several dozen times.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: denison,tx
866 posts, read 1,137,566 times
Reputation: 1537
as far as cranberries are concerned our motto is "if it don't say Ocean Spray, then walk away"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 08:35 PM
 
1,337 posts, read 1,522,763 times
Reputation: 656
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissingAll4Seasons View Post
Can't tell you how many people end up in the hospital here thinking that the red baneberries are cranberries...
I wonder if you could easily differentiate just by taste. Just chew on a sample of one berry, and if it tastes the wrong way, spit it out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
4,731 posts, read 9,946,745 times
Reputation: 3393
That's kind of how I feel about mushrooms Tennessee -- if it isn't cultivated, I'll just pass the plate, thx

Take one semester of botanical toxicology, and you'll never eat something you just picked without checking and double-checking first that's for sure. Most stuff will just make you sick; but the stuff that will kill you, kills you slowly and extremely painfully.

As Socrates said "I just drank what?!"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-09-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
4,731 posts, read 9,946,745 times
Reputation: 3393
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomThroughAnarchism View Post
I wonder if you could easily differentiate just by taste. Just chew on a sample of one berry, and if it tastes the wrong way, spit it out.
Well, baneberries do taste extremely bitter, but then so do raw cranberries.

Tasting isn't a good way to determine if something is safe to eat... as many things only require a small amount of toxin to have an effect and can be absorbed through the mucous membranes in your mouth and don't have to be swallowed. A tiny nibble of baneberry will likely just make your mouth numb, you salivate a bunch, and your heart race a little... but not something I'd want to risk anyway.

If you don't have a reference guide, or can't make a positive ID based on the information in yours, there are several steps to take in determining the safety well before you taste it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2011, 01:51 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
8,297 posts, read 14,164,711 times
Reputation: 8105
Thanks! Bookmarked - this site looks to be very interesting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
25,732 posts, read 18,809,520 times
Reputation: 22579
Yes, BE CAREFUL with wild edible plants. There are many "false friend" lookalikes. Take your time and make sure you have a positive ID. I'm just starting to get into this. It will take literally years to become comfortable. Do a LOT of study before you put it in your mouth. Make sure you know what it is and how to prepare it. Start off with the obvious ones that are easily recognizable, and work from there.

Also, the line between edible and toxic is actually a spectrum. Of course there are deadly plants that will kill you or make you sick right away. There are also plants that will build toxins within your body and you may not even know there is a problem until those toxins build to dangerous levels. Also, to cloud the issue further, some mildly toxic plants are not toxic once they are prepared and/or cooked properly. For instance, acorns. They were a staple food for some native Americans. Yet, you don't want to be going out in the forest, picking them, and pigging out on them. They must be properly prepared. And the variety of oak (red, white, etc) determines the amount of toxin (tannin) in the acorn. Bottom line is be careful--harvesting eatable wild plants is a lost art. Regaining that ability cannot simply rely on trial and error.

There are a few good resources, though. And, also, having offered the above warnings, I also think it's a very useful (even critical) skill that could certainly be used to help others and save lives in a bad situation. And if you give a damn about "business," it will certainly be a barter-able skill.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:14 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top