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Old 07-25-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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I just saw the first half of the Doomsday Preppers episode from last month and the first two families lived in Phoenix AZ and revolved all their prepping around staying in Phoenix AZ... From my personal beliefs I don't think Phoenix or anywhere on the west coast or in the desert is a place to survive during the next few years. Neither is the East Coast or Large Metro areas like BOS-WASH (I95 boston-dc) or Florida..

I'm just curious does anyone consider Geographic regions when they prep for the next few years?

I'll post a map to give an example (the red dots are nuclear plants):
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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Similar thread here: Best Place To Live In The United States To Prepare For Economic Collapse?
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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Default The Vice could tighten on the middle class

The vice could well tighten around the middle class for years.

Arrizona does not look like a good place to me at all. But there likely some desert rats outside the big cities that could do alright.

There is an almost certain long so decline in the USA being taken down to 3rd world levels.

For sure prep for that. Keep expenses low and skill sets up. I study how people did just fine in the USA pre FDR esp, and what people do in the 3rd world today. A good standard of living outside the USA might be just own where you live outright, have what would amount to a $2000 car here. And contive to have food security as well as electrical back up, and easy to get at water.

The question of regions is an interesting one. There could be ethnic strife like in the old Yugoslavia that had the highest standard of living in the now defunct socialist world of eastern Europe. And everyone got along great until the money ran out....

There also areas that would be more likely to be attacked in the USA. Some authors have figured out where to be in the event of nucluer fallout.

There could be a pulse attack or germs or even nature.

The certain bet is lower standards of living and excuses to trim down or even eliminate what is left of the Bill of Rights. Most every area has wind and loose scenerios

Some can be bizarre and counter intuitive such a man in detroit parks a small travel trailer on few hundred dollar lot in hell and thrives.



I think there could be niches throughout North America.
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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I'm not sure what to make of that map. While there are certain givens (high density population = bad, living close to a red dot is bad) other factors come into play. I was a little shocked to see the PNW on the "abandon all hope" side of the line. Are you anticipating an exponential explosion of red algae in the Pacific going airborne and killing off the entire west coast?

I'd like to think that the PNW sits fairly well with prevailing winds, resources, climate, rainfall, etc. While I agree that SE Asia could potentially screw that up majorly (trace amounts of Japanese inspired radiation in the Aleutians are a thankfully minor but unfortunately supportive case in point) I submit that given the kind of magnitude of disaster that it would take to cross the Pacific (volcanic, nuclear, whatever) if PNW is toast, there probably is no "sunshine and daffodils" zone in the USA at that point.

It's all relative. Meteors and Captain Trips don't worry me overmuch, nothing I can do about those. The Fed-inspired $76 gallon of milk, that one scares me.
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Old 07-25-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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The "More Habitable For Humans" area on that map includes Tornado Alley, and a great swath of the midwest that has endured horrible heat stress this summer, overwhelming ice storms last winter, and includes the Chicago and Detroit wastelands.

I agree with the 'niche' idea...northern Maine, up by the Canada border, has fewer than 10 people per square mile (in most of it), and juts up into the Canada landmass between Quebec and Newfoundland. For an old-time New Englander like me, this is as far as I need to go.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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Don't take that map to seriously, although the information to make that map comes from a source I trust. I know NWP and New England is a lovely place and Oklahoma etc is a dry cold place. I would like to see other people's map or ideas. My logic comes from paranormal sources that some time soon after the economy collapses, radiation from asia is gonna kill off the west coast, before it submerges into the ocean while Hawaii becomes a continent and radiation from weapons in europe is gonna kill off the east coast leaving the central northern states and middle of the bible belt as the safest to survive radiation in the air especially if u don't have an underground bunker.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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where the rich are wont survive, they will expect someone else to be taking care of everything for them.

if teotwawki, anyone who is not willing to use a firearm will become a tool of someone who does use the firearm.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:10 PM
 
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Paranormal sources, eh? Interesting.

Personally my plan is to get as far away from population centers as is comfortable as soon as I am able. While I'd be absolutely screwed in your radiation scenario, I'd be bothered by economic meltdown rather than catastrophically effected. Fish don't care about the international exchange rate of fancified tree pulp sheets.

I'll take my chances with the radiation cloud.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I actually feel pretty comfortable where I am on the west coast. Our weather is mild all year round which means crops are planted all year, and we have plenty of farmland and get a decent amount of rain. In addition, since the weather is nice we don't have to worry as much about shelter as a normal house is perfectly bearable. We don't get snow and we don't have too many over 95 degree days.

We're close to the ocean, river, lakes and mountains as well.

I'd rather be here than almost anywhere else. We also have a large University AND 'country folk' so I'd like to think we have a nice balance of both brawn and brains. It's all about balance
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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I wouldn't look to any lingual university brains or country bumpkins to find solutions for the benefit of everyone no more than I would the government if radiation flowed into the area. I think it comes down to being in the right place with the right stuff and ones u love. Hopefully u won't have to move and if u do, u will before its to late.
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