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Old 01-12-2012, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Default What Is FEMA and the military up to?

Im careful to preface that some of my information could be misinformation due to not having all the facts available, but I'm compelled to seek any input anyone may have about FEMA and to find some answers as a preparedness/survival instructor. Apparently, in early 2011 FEMA allocated hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase tons of emergency food (some threads earlier claimed 1 billion!) Yet FEMA nearly went belly up financially by lets say August and tapped money from an emergency money pool to stay above water. Now I found a You Tube piece that might be credible namely "Something Catastropic is brewing in USA" and a few (not all) credible links. There are convoys some miles long headed for designated storage sites in various States (with lower propensity for contamination in disaster) Anyway, the point is does FEMA know something we dont't and should we prepare for upcoming catastrophy (s)?

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Old 01-12-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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, the point is does FEMA know something we dont't (s)?
no
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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I believe that all gubmint agencies (including FEMA) know things that we do not. Most of it, however, does not amount to a hill of beans. If it were that important, it would have leaked out by now -- gubmint employees have family and friends that they want to protect, too.

All that stuff about the freeze-dried food shortage was from last year. The rumors were flying like crazy -- New Madrid fault, World War 3, etc etc. A year has passed and none of that has come about.

I do think that all the criticism that FEMA endured over the handling of Katrina has led to some improvements in the way they operate, and all of this may just be an indication of that.

The REAL question is...what's coming up that FEMA and the military do NOT know about? Hopefully, not much!
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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Just eyeballing some maps and if you look at the FEMA Regions, FEMA camps, Nuclear plants and population density one could observe that camps are in relative proximity and number correlating with nuclear plant locations and civilian population. I would deduce that multiple credible threats to attack nuclear plants exist (and for good reason the threats have not been disclosed to the general public).

Another thing to consider would be a cataclysmic eruption of the subterranian super volcano in Yosemite (which would really make FEMA regions VII & VIII uninhabitable).

The camps, I feel are really designed as 'go to' destinations for distressed civilians in the event of natural (or caused) environmental disasters. It's ludicrous think that we'd be rounded up and brought there and they are likely part of a preparedness plan to preserve the Nation if confronted with an unthinkable scenario.

Commerical Nuclear plants
FEMA Region Maps (http://www.gismaps.fema.gov/historical.pdf - broken link)
FEMA Camp locations
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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Im careful to preface that some of my information could be misinformation due to not having all the facts available, but I'm compelled to seek any input anyone may have about FEMA and to find some answers as a preparedness/survival instructor. Apparently, in early 2011 FEMA allocated hundreds of millions of dollars to purchase tons of emergency food (some threads earlier claimed 1 billion!) Yet FEMA nearly went belly up financially by lets say August and tapped money from an emergency money pool to stay above water. Now I found a You Tube piece that might be credible namely "Something Catastropic is brewing in USA" and a few (not all) credible links. There are convoys some miles long headed for designated storage sites in various States (with lower propensity for contamination in disaster) Anyway, the point is does FEMA know something we dont't and should we prepare for upcoming catastrophy (s)?

FEMA was undergoing a renovation during Katrina (Part of the reason for not responding better) and has undergone ANOTHER reiteration since due to 'lessons learned'

Most people don't know it, but there are HUNDREDS of emergency declarations every year nation wide.

Once those areas reach a certain cost (Per capita) the county's can alert the state (Which puts FEMA on stand by)

Once it hits ANOTHER number they ask for a presidential declaration of an emergency.

This unsnaps the purse-strings of FEMA...

FEMA 'bails out' locals using PA (Public Assistance) and IA (Individual assistance) to pretty well cover the entire costs of an emergency.
(The local is responsible for 12.5% and the state is responsible for 12.5%, but volunteer hours and resources... if properly documented is allowed to count towards those numbers.)

So FEMA pretty well pays for all the costs of the emergency, much of the recovery, many times where insurance missed, or people did not have insurance, and often the costs of building things back better so as to prevent another situation from happening, or mitigating the damages that will cause.

This past year, with all the tornadoes, there was an unprecedented need for funds. (Also each year, as inflation, and technology increases... costs go up... making similar disasters years apart look very different on paper.)

As to the food specifically... they give out food all over and maintain strategic stockpiles.
Gov't doesn't order a case a week... they call in a production run.


...There you go. You taxpayers paid for my education and are paying for my Masters... might as well benefit from it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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I know a fema camp a few miles from me and over the past few years that area has become more secure. I don't know if its because of post-911 or something else. It's normal to see occasional conveys coming and going. We do have 100k'ish soldiers overseas and lots of work from home goes on. A month ago though, there was a loud loud noise from the mcguire-dix-lakehurst base area and towns heard it 40 miles from eachother. It wasn't thunder but something manmade like a sonic boom aircraft. Could have been weapons test or who knows but my point is many things are going on right now. FEMA is made to take care of disasters man-made or not. If people have to stay extensively in them, many are big enough to hold a whole town of people where I imagine people will be fed and put to work in a worse case scenerio. I think of them more of a cottonfield than a soup-kitchen. But I'm sure there will be many friendly people working in FEMA and people will stick together, at the same time I just know I'm not going there.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default What Is FEMA and the military up to?

Sounds to me like they're busy giving the conspiracy theorists some grist for their mills.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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Probably getting ready for the economic colapse of the DOLLAR right after the Euro tanks.
Hard to buy OIL from Opec when you don't have anyone accepting DOLLARS
Hard to refine FUEL when you dont have OIL
Hard to get FOOD to Walmart when you don't have FUEL

Get it?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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Seems logical to me given FEMA's track record of intelligence and efficiency (yeah, that was sarcasm) that this is most likely the timely non-beauracratic response (yeah, sarcasm again) to be ill-prepared the last big disaster.

That's why I never buy into the the whole FEMA is coming to get us conspiracy. I'd rather have FEMA out to get me than try to help me lol.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Sounds to me like they're busy giving the conspiracy theorists some grist for their mills.
That's right, never question anything.

The US didn't know about Pearl Harbor ahead of time.

Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

Believe everything you're told, the thing is the people who get hit the hardest when bad things happen whether it is a job layoff, natural disaster, or an economic collapse are the ones who think everything will always remain status quo.

But don't think about it.
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