Why Are Millions Of Americans Preparing For Doomsday? (lamp, pressure, prices)
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Because if an asteroid doesn't get us, the liberals will.
I'm assuming you meant this in a rhetorical sense; but it is literally true. Cursory historical research of what the far left does when empowered is quite an eyeopener. Historians tends to bray loudest at unfortunate incidents perpetrated by evil people and completely ignore genocides of magnitudes hundreds of times worse done by evil states (quite often leftist) led by by profoundly evil people that would make the demonized from the first group look like fuzzy bunny rabbits. In our out-of-phase world, truly evil villains are held in high esteem and canonized as heroes... all dependent, of course, on their political leanings and in spite of their actual actions.
I'm assuming you meant this in a rhetorical sense; but it is literally true. Cursory historical research of what the far left does when empowered is quite an eyeopener. Historians tends to bray loudest at unfortunate incidents perpetrated by evil people and completely ignore genocides of magnitudes hundreds of times worse done by evil states (quite often leftist) led by by profoundly evil people that would make the demonized from the first group look like fuzzy bunny rabbits. In our out-of-phase world, truly evil villains are held in high esteem and canonized as heroes... all dependent, of course, on their political leanings and in spite of their actual actions.
Citations please, otherwise it's just another rant.
I love how people will have insurance for their homes, insurance for their cars, health insurance and even life insurance. but they will not eve bother putting away a few weeks to a few months worth of food and water in case the weather gets crappy and the grocery store is cleaned out in 10 minutes flat.
looks like there is still more sheep in the USA than sheepdogs.
Citations please, otherwise it's just another rant.
Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Che, blah blah blah...
How many million more people did Stalin (or Mao) kill, as opposed to someone like, say, Custer or Columbus? And who is held in the history books as the good guy who "had to do what he had to do" (if it's even admitted) and bad guy? Yes, folks like Stalin are killing for a cause as opposed to Custer, who killed because he hated Indians (or did he?). Or Columbus, who wanted to discover a new world or peoples that he didn't even know actually existed for sure solely to enslave and massacre its inhabitants. This, of course (again), justifies one and condemns the other.
Although left-leaning philosophy is not my bag, it's not the philosophy that bothers me so much (to each his/her own), it's the hypocrisy (and coercion). Kind of like the condemnation of oil... while riding around in a damn gas-burning auto. The panic of global warming, while living in a palace that uses the energy 50 normal homes would. The condemnation of "the rich," and they're the richest bastards on the face of the earth. Death to income inequality... when they make ten times what the poor working schlub makes. I'm "free" to smoke dope, but I'm not free to control the care of my own body the way I, myself, see fit. I could list a thousand "do as I say, not as I do" moments and 180 degree slants in left-leaning policy and thought. That's what gets me most, not the actual concepts in many cases.
How many million more people did Stalin (or Mao) kill, as opposed to someone like, say, Custer or Columbus? And who is held in the history books as the good guy who "had to do what he had to do" (if it's even admitted) and bad guy? Yes, folks like Stalin are killing for a cause as opposed to Custer, who killed because he hated Indians (or did he?). Or Columbus, who wanted to discover a new world or peoples that he didn't even know actually existed for sure solely to enslave and massacre its inhabitants. This, of course (again), justifies one and condemns the other.
I have NEVER in any history book seen Stalin or Mao portrayed as the "good guys". Can you please provide links where this had been said? Stalin's society was not left leaning by any means, neither was Mao's. They were dictatorships.
When people say left or left leaning they mean places like Western Europe, Scandinavia etc.
It is all relative, after all. You could have called old Yugoslavia left leaning too since it was not a dictatorship and people had the right to travel everywhere, own things, run private businesses etc. just like their Western neighbors. To their Eastern neighbors Yugoslavia was America to their Western neighbors Yugoslavia was a nice vacation spot
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Originally Posted by ChrisC
Although left-leaning philosophy is not my bag, it's not the philosophy that bothers me so much (to each his/her own), it's the hypocrisy (and coercion). Kind of like the condemnation of oil... while riding around in a damn gas-burning auto. The panic of global warming, while living in a palace that uses the energy 50 normal homes would. The condemnation of "the rich," and they're the richest bastards on the face of the earth. Death to income inequality... when they make ten times what the poor working schlub makes. I'm "free" to smoke dope, but I'm not free to control the care of my own body the way I, myself, see fit. I could list a thousand "do as I say, not as I do" moments and 180 degree slants in left-leaning policy and thought. That's what gets me most, not the actual concepts in many cases.
Hmm. Interesting. I find that many people who condemn oil, the tainted food chain and companies like Monsanto really want the following: someone to make sure that the oil and gas companies are not destroying nature and someone to make sure that the food chain is not tainted. These people, perhaps misguidedly, believe that it is the job of the government to make sure these things do not happen (isn't it? After all this is a service we pay taxes for.). Is it their fault that the government is owned by the companies? I am pretty sure if there was a referendum tomorrow in America, the vast majority of people would vote against lobbying and for term limits, for example. Majority would also vote to stop allowing corporations to donate to political campaigns. Do you think these people are against capitalism in doing so? (I don't). How would you be robbed of ANY rights personally if paid-for-lobbying stopped or if a corporation was not able to donate to a campaign anymore?
Hmm. Interesting. I find that many people who condemn oil, the tainted food chain and companies like Monsanto really want the following: someone to make sure that the oil and gas companies are not destroying nature and someone to make sure that the food chain is not tainted. These people, perhaps misguidedly, believe that it is the job of the government to make sure these things do not happen (isn't it? After all this is a service we pay taxes for.). Is it their fault that the government is owned by the companies? I am pretty sure if there was a referendum tomorrow in America, the vast majority of people would vote against lobbying and for term limits, for example. Majority would also vote to stop allowing corporations to donate to political campaigns. Do you think these people are against capitalism in doing so? (I don't). How would you be robbed of ANY rights personally if paid-for-lobbying stopped or if a corporation was not able to donate to a campaign anymore?
But that's not what irks me. It's big names of the left like Al Gore bloviating about global warming and how we are all raping the world. And all the while... well... have you seen pictures of his home? Then we have our president moaning and groaning about income inequality. Do you have any idea what his wife makes (or has recently made)? And one of his trips to the golf course would probably put a homeless person in an apartment for a year. How about the grand-poohba champion for equality-based socialism: Soros? Do you have any idea how much that hypocrite makes? He's ten times richer than all the people he condemns put together. And that same hypocrisy applies to a good chunk of the leading lefties here in the good ol' USA: the President, Pelosi, Reid, etc etc etc. When I see them living in a cabin like Thoreau, I'll bother listening to their hot air. If we really want "equality for all," they'd need to be among the first to have their amassed fortunes and assets seized. Every one of them lives in a fragile, paper-thin glass house.
I'll just bet if I were (note the use of the subjunctive ) suddenly omnipotent and championed the idea of income inequality for alllllll... and professed that I wanted to make the world better by chopping the rich down to size and could wave my hand and cause every person on the face of the earth to make, say, 25K per year (a livable wage if you are living like the typical liberal professes we all should)... no leading liberal would see of it. Not a one. If the big name liberals are so bent out of shape about income inequality, why don't they (folks like Soros or Michelle) start handing their fat bank accounts to those in need until their income and fortune is equalized? I'll tell you why... because they spend other people's money in the name of their own professed, but not practiced, cause. If they had to personally fund their cause and personally live their cause, it wouldn't be their cause.
Bdah, Bdah, Bdah... that's all folks. End of rant. And a jolly good doomsday to all...
But that's not what irks me. It's big names of the left like Al Gore bloviating about global warming and how we are all raping the world. And all the while... well... have you seen pictures of his home? Then we have our president moaning and groaning about income inequality. Do you have any idea what his wife makes (or has recently made)? And one of his trips to the golf course would probably put a homeless person in an apartment for a year. How about the grand-poohba champion for equality-based socialism: Soros? Do you have any idea how much that hypocrite makes? He's ten times richer than all the people he condemns put together. And that same hypocrisy applies to a good chunk of the leading lefties here in the good ol' USA: the President, Pelosi, Reid, etc etc etc. When I see them living in a cabin like Thoreau, I'll bother listening to their hot air. If we really want "equality for all," they'd need to be among the first to have their amassed fortunes and assets seized. Every one of them lives in a fragile, paper-thin glass house.
I'll just bet if I were (note the use of the subjunctive ) suddenly omnipotent and championed the idea of income inequality for alllllll... and professed that I wanted to make the world better by chopping the rich down to size and could wave my hand and cause every person on the face of the earth to make, say, 25K per year (a livable wage if you are living like the typical liberal professes we all should)... no leading liberal would see of it. Not a one. If the big name liberals are so bent out of shape about income inequality, why don't they (folks like Soros or Michelle) start handing their fat bank accounts to those in need until their income and fortune is equalized? I'll tell you why... because they spend other people's money in the name of their own professed, but not practiced, cause. If they had to personally fund their cause and personally live their cause, it wouldn't be their cause.
Bdah, Bdah, Bdah... that's all folks. End of rant. And a jolly good doomsday to all...
Firs off, I will ask you to not conveniently skip my question after your rant:
"I have NEVER in any history book seen Stalin or Mao portrayed as the "good guys". Can you please provide links where this had been said? Stalin's society was not left leaning by any means, neither was Mao's. They were dictatorships."
Now, with that out of the way
I do not think that anyone is advocating anyone living on $25,000/per year.
I think, for example, the White House has a garden where they grow all the vegetables used to feed the first family. That's some kind of a start even a weak one.
I agree with you on Al Gore but his messages still stands without his lifestyle. It is one of those things where you are abandoning the message because you don't like the messenger.
Now, I see nowhere did you mention our bloated military, the trillions of dollars of pointless wars, the humongous machinery that just keeps taking. It is funny how it is OK for the "money tap" to just flow dollars any time a defense contractor turns it open but when it comes to social programs the GOP etc. are rabid about every dollar spent. You get hung on the President's golf trip but ignore the trillions our last few escapades cost us.
As I have said before, the politicians on both sides of the divide have been bought and paid for by various corporate interests. What we have today is exactly what happens when the legislative arm is owned by multiple, often contrary interests. When you can't make everyone happy, you make some more happy, some less happy and everyone without a voice or a lobbyist - very unhappy. The elected representatives have forgotten all about the people who elect them.
Look me in the (virtual) eye and tell me that the way business is conducted today on BOTH SIDES of the isle is OK with you. Tell me you are OK with the present system of buying senators and congressmen, people spending 40 years elected into the same position. Tell me you think the lobbyist system was invented with the goal of someone making $400/hr to have lunch with an elected representative to sway his opinion. Tell me what you think - would this country be VERY different if those things did not happen anymore?
To get back to the topic: people are preparing for doomsday because the writing is on the wall (this is just an observation, I hope I am way off). Now they are just grumbling but you can see that the power structures are worried - drones, surveillance.... - that's not because of foreign threats my friend. Unless some kind of crazy prosperity happens again like under Clinton, it will only get worse. I pray every day (and I am not the praying kind) that things improve for everyone.
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