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Old 04-08-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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If I ever have serious, non-return to vigorous health issues, I will suicide. I am not interested in such a life and I don't see why anyone else would be. It's revolting, actually.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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If I ever have serious, non-return to vigorous health issues, I will suicide. I am not interested in such a life and I don't see why anyone else would be. It's revolting, actually.
Vigorous health doesn't mean the same thing at seventy that it did at twenty. We adapt as we age. It's preferable to the alternative.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Back on topic - in addition to affordable land, affordable taxes, reasonable regulations and fees, available water, reasonable resource and land rights, and affordable/available healthcare... any other things to consider when looking for best places to prepare?
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Hunkering down atop Shasta
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The climate should be mild in winter, unless you have a woodlot sufficiently big to replace the wood taken from it for fuel. Mild enough so that it doesn't often fall below the freezing point indoors. Make sure you have timber rights.

Have strong, healthy young family members to cut and haul the wood. A few people can keep up that kind of work for all of a long life, but not many.

Locate within traveling distance of a doctor and dentist.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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And, similarly, the climate should be mild in summer, unless you have sufficient shading and ample water, with water rights, and an affordable way to access and transport that water.

3+ months of hot summer can be just as much problem as 3+ months of cold winter; and hauling water is just as difficult as hauling wood.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Have strong, healthy young family members to cut and haul the wood. A few people can keep up that kind of work for all of a long life, but not many.
Haven't we done this to death already?

I spend FIFTEEN DAYS doing firewood a year, and I live in AK. Look I understand you seem to think that it's hell on earth, but it's really not, and it's not a few people either, there's 70 year olds here doing their firewood today, they're not young and healthy, many are old and knackered.
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Haven't we done this to death already?

I spend FIFTEEN DAYS doing firewood a year, and I live in AK. Look I understand you seem to think that it's hell on earth, but it's really not, and it's not a few people either, there's 70 year olds here doing their firewood today, they're not young and healthy, many are old and knackered.
I agree.

Where you are is certainly a bit cooler than here in Maine. But in this area collecting firewood is not a fulltime job.

Perhaps folks down in the deep South need more?
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Hunkering down atop Shasta
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Haven't we done this to death already?

I spend FIFTEEN DAYS doing firewood a year, and I live in AK. Look I understand you seem to think that it's hell on earth, but it's really not, and it's not a few people either, there's 70 year olds here doing their firewood today, they're not young and healthy, many are old and knackered.
I'm sure you have a handful of anecdotal stories about individuals, but most people need to be exceptionally healthy and strong to cut wood without power tools, and to haul the wood by hand (unless one is lucky enough to have horses and cart or sledge, chains, etc).
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Full time RV"er
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And, similarly, the climate should be mild in summer, unless you have sufficient shading and ample water, with water rights, and an affordable way to access and transport that water.

3+ months of hot summer can be just as much problem as 3+ months of cold winter; and hauling water is just as difficult as hauling wood.
WOW! I have to guess then that my daugher bought the Ideal place in southern Missouri, 27 acres mostly flat crossed fenced pasture land, a good stream running through it with a nice fishing pond 100' X 200' in the middle of it,and a good deep well for domestic use , nice line of older tree's for fire wood, 40' X 80' barn for the animals, and a machine shop! , I can fix anything now. All I need to do is get out there and put in a R V pad and I can also call it home after i get through digging the tornado shelter !
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: 125 Years Too Late...
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Back on topic - in addition to affordable land, affordable taxes, reasonable regulations and fees, available water, reasonable resource and land rights, and affordable/available healthcare... any other things to consider when looking for best places to prepare?
It's worth mentioning again that if there were a major "event" that caused social unrest or refugees fleeing the cities, a farmstead in the track of the refugees is as good as gone as soon as something happens, even if it is a fair distance from the big cities. To prepare for this aspect, one has to look at the likely routes such individuals (refugees, marauders, thugs, etc) would use--the path of least resistance for them over hundreds of miles. After reading a book that was suggested on another thread, my eyes have been opened a bit more to this; I understood the concept before, but hadn't considered it well enough and hadn't taken certain factors into consideration. I'm tweaking my plans because of it. Of course, maybe there never will be "flight from the cities," but it's just one less thing to worry about if you take it into account and one more factor that can increase the probability of survival in a survival situation. But it's a bit more complex than most folks think it is.
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