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Old 03-25-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: North Jersey
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I don't think euthanasia will ever happen. Exactly who would be the one who decides who lives and dies in life.

I have a sister and brother and I see how they neglect my 87 year old mother so I don't expect anything less. In addition we are very close in age so they could go before me.

It is hard to say about my financial situation because there are a lot of variables - how long my job will last, how long will I live, will I encounter serious medical expenses. I thought about taking out an insurance policy and leaving it to two people to make sure I am ok but I don't know who those two people are. I am trying to figure this out. There are no other relatives in my family.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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I don't think euthanasia will ever happen. Exactly who would be the one who decides who lives and dies in life.

I have a sister and brother and I see how they neglect my 87 year old mother so I don't expect anything less. In addition we are very close in age so they could go before me.

It is hard to say about my financial situation because there are a lot of variables - how long my job will last, how long will I live, will I encounter serious medical expenses. I thought about taking out an insurance policy and leaving it to two people to make sure I am ok but I don't know who those two people are. I am trying to figure this out. There are no other relatives in my family.
i wish that idea could be worked out. As my father lay dying if advanced double lung cancer from working in high energy fields most of his adult life building guidance systems for our security and the space shuttle, not smoking, he asked me to finish it...

That meant to shoot him with his own Winchester 12 ga shotgun. There was no cure, there was no relief even the morphine could not be held down and so one day he just stopped eating and drinking..
That was a hard way to go.

He wasn't out of his mind either. He knew what he was doing.

It's just to bad LAW and foolish politicians can't get this figured and mostly for legal reasons where they profit.

If I would not have gone to prison for the rest my life i would have killed my Dad, because I wanted to be the son he wanted, the one that would do anything he needed, when he needed, and i could have killed and still survived it mentally.

I had a lot of respect for my Dad, but i have none for lawyers and cheaper than dirt politicians.

I thought you said you were 60.... If so 60 isn't that old..... I am 61 and still working and still working out.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:29 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I have a good friend whose father asked him for the same thing, broke his heart to have to say no to his dad. But he has kids, too, so what could he do? I hope never to be asked such a favor, for I would likely find some way to oblige, if I thought I could possibly get clear of the legal end. Person used to be able to die quietly at home a lot easier than they can now, since the medical and pharma(farm us) industries feel the need to extract every last bit of wealth, and in the process, dignity, that we peasants might happen to possess. Person is better off being dirt poor and offering no gain to them, maybe you can die quicker and with a shred or two of dignity...
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:44 AM
 
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countryboy, Dad got to die in his bed at home, but not under his own terms. The meds made him sicker. These meds were supposed to relieve his pain, but did not. He was miserable more than he needed to be because of fools and jokers who think they know best.

There was no way he was getting better..... he had never been sick a day in his life and the first time he felt sick the docs stated he had 9 months to live and that's what he did.

My little brother passed 9 months later from a tick bite. He slicked everyone... Went for a motorcycle ride, came home had lunch and dropped stone cold dead.

Dad went on my wife's BD labor Day, 9 months later it was Memorial Day I was in Ct at Voo, and felt funny on the first sunday and we left. Little bro passed on Saturday, I was supposed to leave on the next Sunday or maybe Monday. Some people say I am a little psychic.

Next April Easter 1999 my in laws were stabbed to death.. That was a rough time. I think just now i am beginning to get over some of it, but i surely have no fear of death anymore.

2004 my wife was in a car crash rear ended by a cops kid. I was on Lake George NY and felt it.. Went home on that first weekend too of a 10 day event..... Don't take that wrong. I don't know what's happened only that something is wrong..
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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A good bit of death close by does tend to blunt any fear of it one has. I tell folks I am not afraid of dying, and I am not. What I never want to do is die without having done something worthwhile. The trick is that most worthwhile things take most of a lifetime to get done, and those that don't generally kill a man either right after he does it, or while he's trying to get it done. But, hey. I love a challenge... Sorry you have had to deal with so much loss and in such a short time and such hurtful ways.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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What don't kill me makes me stronger..... I no longer fear death, but i ain't in any hurry either

On the other hand I think my legs believe they are dead today That hike on Sunday made me lame... Oh Well the next hike comes Saturday legs ready or not. I bring bits of Dads gear, very little really of his, but for hand tied flies..... More of my brothers, so in a way they get to come along too.

When my time comes i will go down kickin'
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Me too. I will be giving the Reaper enough of a workout that I'll be the only guy in the world to die for a week. The old buzzard will need some down time after he gets me down, I dare say! Keep teasing the wife, telling her I am going to want my ashes scattered from the summit of Mt. McGuire in the Frank Church Wilderness. She tells me sure, no problem, then reminds me that I will never know if she did it or not. I tell her I'll haunt her if she doesn't. Anyway, if the good die young, I have a long time to go yet. I'm only 40. Should make it to at least 128 or so, the way I act. Gonna be a hard slog up Mt. McGuire for a gal in her 120's...

How far you hiking on a Sunday?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I am almost all alone in the world. Things are fine right this minute but I am concerned about what will happen if I become incapacitated or senile. Who can I trust to handle my finances and to make sure I am not exploited. Any ideas are welcome.


I will be dead before I become old enough to be senile or incapacitated. too many people hate my kind.

my kind equals those that consider themselves to be independent and not needing government help in order to live.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I will be dead before I become old enough to be senile or incapacitated. too many people hate my kind.

my kind equals those that consider themselves to be independent and not needing government help in order to live.
mw, me too. Us Randians are a rare enough breed ATM, and the socialists are doing their best to make it a year-round open season on us. Don't know why, since they are the ones breeding like feral pigs. Ah, well. I may go early, but I will not be soon forgotten by those who survive my passing...
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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mw, me too. Us Randians are a rare enough breed ATM, and the socialists are doing their best to make it a year-round open season on us. Don't know why, since they are the ones breeding like feral pigs. Ah, well. I may go early, but I will not be soon forgotten by those who survive my passing...



all isnt lost though, I am teaching my 2 daughters at home, and my oldest daughter out of the home that a person can be independent and not have government be there for the nanny state. all of them know how to shoot firearms safely and none of them trust government either.
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