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Old 10-22-2013, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I'm just finishing up the Memoirs of Darryl Gates, the one-time police chief of L.A., and what all transpired during the 1965 riots in Watts back then!

OMG! Thinking of potential anarchy some day in this country, this scared the bejesus out of me!

Up until then, the only riot training they had had, was dealing with a long march of people that suddenly gets out of control. But Watts? It left LAPD completely clueless as to what to do first, being it was so widespread over such a big area!

Police being shot at from 2nd story windows, rocks smashing their windshields, police cars turned upside down and set on fire, and, being the Fire trucks refused to go into the area to put out any fires, fearing being shot at, all they could was sit back and watch the burning and looting for 5-6 days!

Having thrown up their hands, they finally brought in 13,000 National Guardsmen to quell the violence.

Really makes me wonder, if we're anymore prepared today for something like this happening? What do you think?
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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[quote=tijlover;31907104]I'm just finishing up the Memoirs of Darryl Gates, the one-time police chief of L.A., and what all transpired during the 1965 riots in Watts back then!...quote]

Watts was huge and devastating, and because it was a first it sticks in people's minds. Follow up what occurred in subsequent summers, and you will understand that the Watts riot you refer too was like an isolated fire; whereas, what happened in later summers was conflagrations spread across the nation.

Look into the burning of the city of Newark, the government was so overwhelmed that it labelled it "insurrection" not rioting. I stood in my bedroom window and watched the red glow in the sky of Newark burning down...and it was just one of many such catastrophes.

As for whether I think we are better prepared than we were during those "long, hot summers," yes I do. However, the down side is that I feel certain that the concentration of guns at all levels of American society is much greater now, and I believe that we will be just as likely to see eruptions of lawlessness and extremism amongst whites and as amongst blacks.

Thus, I think unless the federal and state governments are prepared to move in very quickly with National Guard and regular army forces, the end result will probably be much worse than in those summers.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Just like the Rodney King riots, you will see the people that already own firearms protecting their property from looters, those that don't have weapons trying to get them and finding out they let the laws evolve to the point where they can't legally get protection, and watching their lifes work go up in smoke.

Or you will see a Katrina style event where the guns of law abiding citizens are confiscated, while the looters and rapists and arsonists run rampant.

It has all happened, you just have to open your eyes and look to see what can happen because it already has.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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We (as in agencies) are more prepared in terms of knowing what resources to call, how to call them and the interoperability of radio systems but, if the citizens of any city want to riot, they will be able to riot for quite a long time.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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Actually I think we are less prepared today, at least less prepared to act. Political correctness is going to hamstring most efforts to deal with such situations until they get completely out of hand.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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After watching the military tanks in Boston after the Marathon attacks (geez, can we remember back to April after all that has happened since?), I'd say the new "militarized" police (via $$$ from Homeland Security) are about ready for anything. It takes a whole lotta molotov cocktails and bullets to disable a tank! And Homeland Security has enough rounds to kill each of us probably 10 times over.

I'm not comfortable with that degree of government power being used here in the US. Posse comitatus used to protect us against that sort of nonsense, but they're run over it with a steamroller. This time, I think it'll be us crackers out in the streets, not the minorities. A second Civil War is definitely in the offing. Maybe a second Revolutionary War. Ammo will trump $$$, big-time.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I really wonder, during the Watts riots, if there had been cellphones back then, how that would have effected things. A battle of cellphone users?

One big advantage for anarchists in the U.S. is our penchant for building houses, apartment buildings out of wood. It would be less of a concern for me in Mexico, where everything is built out of concrete, even the roofs.

What's going to burn if your house is built out of concrete? Some of the contents? But, at least, your house won't burn down! Go ahead! Throw that Molotov cocktail thru my bedroom or living room window!
No need for the Fire Department! And a bullet is not going to penetrate thru a concrete wall!
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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There were not any tanks in Boston.
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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There were not any tanks in Boston.
‘Unprecedented’ Show of force | Boston Herald
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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Regardless of the ignorance of journalists, that is not a tank.
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