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Old 05-03-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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It's just one of the things about the general population that I find puzzling.

Hurricanes come with a full week of warning, yet some of the population is out trying to buy gasoline and bottled water in the last minute. Even more people are out trying to buy gasoline and bottled water after the storm has come and gone.

The news channels can always find several people to whine on camera that nobody has come to save them, yet. Although it isn't possible to know what percentage of the population those folks represent.

It's just so lackadaisical.
I too don't understand that the hour after a storm passes why everyone is out looking for food, water, and gas. I get it a few days later as your supplies get low. All they end up doing is slowing down and hampering restoration efforts which makes it take longer for things to get back to normal. OF course a small percentage of people will have had their supplies completely wiped out - but it isn't the case for the majority people out on the roads.

Where ever you live you should be prepared for your 'normal' natural disasters that could affect your area. Whether it is snow, ice, blizzards, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc... Also you should know whether you get minutes or days warning. If you have a peak time of the year that these disasters are possible - you should be stepping up your preparations. Obviously, there is no earthquake season...

For example, Hurricane season starts soon for me. So I end up checking and updating my plans, if needed, re-stock non-perishable foods, bottled water, and extra fuel. I typically keep and rotate water, non-perishables, and fuel at the house anyways. I also make sure my generator starts as it is easy to get repaired now, but not so much when disaster strikes.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Sometimes the news reports are misleading. A person looking for food and water may have been prepared just that their entire home and prepardness supplies were sucked away by a tornado. I can not fault the people in the primary disaster area since the conditions may be such that whatever they reasonably prepared for went upside down when the severity of destruction exceeded the rational level of prepardness. I'm sure there are even "preppers" on this forum that have been caught withtheir pants down when their supplies were the victim of the disaster.
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Cattusbabe don't fret this society will not survive even a EMP (electro magnetic pulse) that could wipe out everything
electrical leaving only solar and fire for energy (that on an individual basis). It's estimated that city dwellers will parish
first 80-90% a surprising number calculated by experts (a long list). So enough doomsday stuff the question is why?
What are the root causes (generally one but in this case many). Affluenza (we are too secure with wealth even the
poor here are wealthy in relation to 3rd world countries consequently don't feel a need to prepare. They don't watch
Glenn Beck (Blaze TV)and clueless about the "preparedness" supplies on the Jim Bakker Show who in time will save
many lives . Bakker gets his food from Food For Life we bought 1000 meals . Anyway, ignorance,apathy (ain't gonna
happen mindset) then there is no mindset and finally extremely poor preparedness programs by FEMA, Red Cross, and
a total disconnect within churches (pastors not preparing for prophecy they preach daily ,warnings (harbingers) signs
in the heaven don't get me going here ). Potential victims haven't any idea that a transportation is gone the computers
all modes of tranprotation are gridlocked . The few who have battery cars will not be able to get two block due to
clogged roads. no Assistance of ANY kind (FEMA ,Red Cross, Police ,first responders a moot point)
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Cattusbabe don't fret this society will not survive even a EMP (electro magnetic pulse) that could wipe out everything
electrical leaving only solar and fire for energy (that on an individual basis). It's estimated that city dwellers will parish
first 80-90% a surprising number calculated by experts (a long list). So enough doomsday stuff the question is why?
What are the root causes (generally one but in this case many). Affluenza (we are too secure with wealth even the
poor here are wealthy in relation to 3rd world countries consequently don't feel a need to prepare. They don't watch
Glenn Beck (Blaze TV)and clueless about the "preparedness" supplies on the Jim Bakker Show who in time will save
many lives . Bakker gets his food from Food For Life we bought 1000 meals . Anyway, ignorance,apathy (ain't gonna
happen mindset) then there is no mindset and finally extremely poor preparedness programs by FEMA, Red Cross, and
a total disconnect within churches (pastors not preparing for prophecy they preach daily ,warnings (harbingers) signs
in the heaven don't get me going here ). Potential victims haven't any idea that a transportation is gone the computers
all modes of tranprotation are gridlocked . The few who have battery cars will not be able to get two block due to
clogged roads. no Assistance of ANY kind (FEMA ,Red Cross, Police ,first responders a moot point)
This is not the religion forum.
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Old 05-04-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Sorry Escort Rider I'm not religious . I only gave a few segments in the loop of potential survival mentioning churches (forget
the religion or faith association ) I'm looking at numbers and safe havens one can go to had preparation became an issue.
Churches would be a shelter for anyone not just Jesus freaks . As for Jim Bakker he is the ONLY program in america with
that offers survival outside of Glenn Beck and a church that bought 1 million dollars worth of food from Bakker but I never
found out what church ? The point here is preparation whever it can be gotten. My also point is America is clueless and its
people a security risk. (body removal ,disease,looting.murder,and marshal law,need to defend) Don't shoot the messenger
which is a message you didn't get? Clandestinely, FEMA last year purchased 1 billion dollars in emgergency food tracked by
curious truckers in the Southeast and stored in secret locations (20-25yr shelf life) . Homeland bougt a million rounds of
ammo last month (both agencies are financially strapped especially FEMA (nearly broke) so why spend so much? They know
we are headed for an EMP ,Pandemic or a financial collapse. You can Google the government storage facility in Indiana and
take note it contains either coffin liners (250,000) or they are coffins that hold two bodies at a time (sweet).

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Old 05-07-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Sorry Escort Rider I'm not religious . I only gave a few segments in the loop of potential survival mentioning churches (forget
the religion or faith association ) I'm looking at numbers and safe havens one can go to had preparation became an issue.
Don't apologize. He's here only to disrupt; it's not his first time.

There are many people who are survivalists for religious reasons. Mormons have always done this; the Wasatch Front has more survival stores than liquor stores.

Most Christian churches, however, are nothing more than sycophants for the rulers in Washington who demand obedience and conformity. I suggest that Christians seek out Christian Identity churches where survival and self-sufficiency are held in great esteem. Although pagans have a reputation for supporting Washington there are plenty of pagans who are survivalists. A good clue that you've found a good congregation is a rule requiring men to be armed at religious functions.

Don't worry about others' activities. Find a safe rural location and start a home-based business. Stock up on food, arms, and gold. Take the Red Cross first aid courses; assemble real first aid kits. Unless you're an experienced rifleman take the Appleseed courses. Learn how to forage and garden; learn how to can, dry, lard (used here as a verb), and pickle. Take your children out of the government indoctrination centers and homeschool them.

Start reading about survival skills of all sorts. Get rid of the television; never allow your children to watch it. Mainstream entertainment media are servants of the rulers; that definitely includes Fox. And remember that antiracist is just a codeword for antiwhite.


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Churches would be a shelter for anyone not just Jesus freaks . As for Jim Bakker he is the ONLY program in america with
that offers survival outside of Glenn Beck and a church that bought 1 million dollars worth of food from Bakker but I never
found out what church ? The point here is preparation whever it can be gotten. My also point is America is clueless and its
people a security risk. (body removal ,disease,looting.murder,and marshal law,need to defend) Don't shoot the messenger
which is a message you didn't get? Clandestinely, FEMA last year purchased 1 billion dollars in emgergency food tracked by
curious truckers in the Southeast and stored in secret locations (20-25yr shelf life) . Homeland bougt a million rounds of
ammo last month (both agencies are financially strapped especially FEMA (nearly broke) so why spend so much? They know
we are headed for an EMP ,Pandemic or a financial collapse. You can Google the government storage facility in Indiana and
take note it contains either coffin liners (250,000) or they are coffins that hold two bodies at a time (sweet).
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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I think a lot of the people who don't do things like top up their gas tank are just really poor. Meaning they didn't have the money to buy gas until pay day because they're living pay check to pay check. That is, sadly, a fairly large slice of the population.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:52 PM
 
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Find a safe rural location and start a home-based business. Stock up on food, arms, and gold.
Ah, yes, the myth of everyone starting their own home based rural business. Modern press is full of these "success stories" - "Sue from Washington started planing herbs as a hobby and now she runs a successful online business", "Karl from Oregon was always interested in llamas and now he has a llama farm". So on and so on. What most of these stories don't tell you is that Sue spent 30 years in corporate America sucking the rest of the citizens dry so she can move to her little "scenic rural 100 acre ranchette".

Unfortunately, it takes a boatload of money to be able to live off the grid and "start a home based rural business". It means you will be debt free, own your own place fair and square and have a sizable bank account to pay for the rip-off health insurance, auto insurance, all living expenses etc. for the duration of the "test flight" with your business. And then you are also facing a pretty high failure rate for small private businesses (more likely it will fail than that it will succeed). In conclusion, unless Daddy left you his land or you worked in corporate America making your account bigger while selling fog to the sheep, pardon, being part of mid to senior management - the above advice has a pretty slim chance of turning into reality.

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Take the Red Cross first aid courses; assemble real first aid kits. Unless you're an experienced rifleman take the Appleseed courses. Learn how to forage and garden; learn how to can, dry, lard (used here as a verb), and pickle. Take your children out of the government indoctrination centers and homeschool them.

Start reading about survival skills of all sorts. Get rid of the television; never allow your children to watch it. Mainstream entertainment media are servants of the rulers; that definitely includes Fox.
This is good advice.

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And remember that antiracist is just a codeword for antiwhite.
No comment.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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I suggest that Christians seek out Christian Identity churches where survival and self-sufficiency are held in great esteem. Although pagans have a reputation for supporting Washington there are plenty of pagans who are survivalists. A good clue that you've found a good congregation is a rule requiring men to be armed at religious functions.

Don't worry about others' activities. Find a safe rural location and start a home-based business. Stock up on food, arms, and gold. Take the Red Cross first aid courses; assemble real first aid kits. Unless you're an experienced rifleman take the Appleseed courses. Learn how to forage and garden; learn how to can, dry, lard (used here as a verb), and pickle. Take your children out of the government indoctrination centers and homeschool them.

Start reading about survival skills of all sorts. Get rid of the television; never allow your children to watch it. Mainstream entertainment media are servants of the rulers; that definitely includes Fox. And remember that antiracist is just a codeword for antiwhite.
Ahh, there you go spewing your white supremacist/neo-Nazi garbage again.

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Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity) refers to a wide variety of loosely affiliated believers and churches with a white supremacist theology.[1][2] Most promote a racist interpretation of Christianity.
Christian Identity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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Those who will survive aren't those who plan, have plenty of guns, ammo, food, water, transportation, the phone call lists, the paper underwear that also functions as a coffee filter, the magnesium fire starter than will eventually make them blind, the generator, the underground silo or anything like that. It isn't what you prepare for with material good that get you through whatever you think is coming, it is being prepared mentally and physically to deal with emotional and physical stress, the knowledge to adapt to a rapidly changing surrounding, the ability to communicate effectively and read people.

The more stuff you have, the more time you will spend paying attention to it, protecting it, trying to conserve it and watching it own you.

That little place you have all self sufficient and such? Along comes bubba and his friends bebop and blowhole. They are going to take your stuff, squat on your property and there isn't going to be much you can do about it, you only think you can because you're prepared and saw it coming. The reality is that they saw you first, figured out you couldn't move ten feet because you'd have to leave all that stuff behind and just waited until you settled in and "got ready" to observe, protect and defend. Meanwhile, they guzzled some beer from the last little enclave they rousted and waited for you to come outside to harvest those blueberries. Pop goes the weasel.
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