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Old 01-15-2015, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Gila County Arizona
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With the exception of the Vela incident in September 1979, all nuclear weapons tests from 1962 onward were conducted underground. Underground nuclear/thermonuclear detonations do not produce atmospheric dust or smoke, and all "fallout" is contained within the blast chamber.

And I, for one, would love to learn the source of your statistic regarding the number of nuclear detonations that took place in the year 1962. I could be wrong; in fact, I often am. With that said, 300 seems about two orders of magnitude too many...
I rechecked the data.

for the year 1962, there were 176 above ground nuclear tests.

Perhaps you are not factoring in the idea that this number is not solely U.S. tests.

There were: Soviet, U.S., British, and French tests conducted in the open air.

The year 1962 was particularly active as the underground test treaty was about to take effect, and nuclear nations wanted to learn as much as possible before "open air" testing was banned.


On rechecking my data, it seems that you are perhaps somewhat correct.

Apparently there were only 528 above ground nuclear tests.

Still a lot but fewer than my initial figure of 2046.
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:30 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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How to Survive a Nuclear Explosion | Science/AAAS | News Some dude at Lawrence Livermore figured it out.



live far enough away from a major population center, communications center and far enough away from air force bases.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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I rechecked the data.

for the year 1962, there were 176 above ground nuclear tests.

Perhaps you are not factoring in the idea that this number is not solely U.S. tests.

There were: Soviet, U.S., British, and French tests conducted in the open air.

The year 1962 was particularly active as the underground test treaty was about to take effect, and nuclear nations wanted to learn as much as possible before "open air" testing was banned.


On rechecking my data, it seems that you are perhaps somewhat correct.

Apparently there were only 528 above ground nuclear tests.

Still a lot but fewer than my initial figure of 2046.
Thanks. I'd still like to know the source of the data.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:48 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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live far enough away from a major population center, communications center and far enough away from air force bases.
You hear on the radio that war has started with Russia ..... so you put out a lawn chair and sip at a Long Island Iced Tea, secure in the way you have prepped out in the middle of nowhere, Wyoming ....

......... then a hole opens up in the ground about half a mile away, and something protrudes. Looking up in the air, you see for just a millisecond a little black dot falling toward you ......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

Jeeez, our West really got hammered! I remember people in Las Vegas used to watch the tests in the evening from their balconies.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:42 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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You hear on the radio that war has started with Russia ..... so you put out a lawn chair and sip at a Long Island Iced Tea, secure in the way you have prepped out in the middle of nowhere, Wyoming ....

......... then a hole opens up in the ground about half a mile away, and something protrudes. Looking up in the air, you see for just a millisecond a little black dot falling toward you ......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

Jeeez, our West really got hammered! I remember people in Las Vegas used to watch the tests in the evening from their balconies.



the nearest silo from me is near Cheyenne. not hard to spot the federal fences with all of their signs, plus the concrete pad inside them.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:48 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Lol ...... I didn't even know you live in Wyoming, I just threw out a state name at random!
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Lol ...... I didn't even know you live in Wyoming, I just threw out a state name at random!
That's alright, Woof. We still like ya...!
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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That's alright, Woof. We still like ya...!
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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That's alright, Woof. We still like ya...!
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Note to self -- Woof may be entirely without a sense of humor, or one of play...
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Old 01-30-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Santa FE NM
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Folks,

Here's the deal, at least according to me. Get yourself a copy of Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearny. Read it, fully and carefully. Plan your survival accordingly.

Realize that the "reason" Kearny's research was downplayed/ignored was simple. It did not comply with the 'rationale of the day' which, btw, was M.A.D. (Mutually-Assured Destruction).

The only problem with the M.A.D. approach was that the Soviets did not acknowledge or follow said rationale. Just take a look at their rather extensive Civil Defense plans (mass civilian shelters, etc).

Like it or not, our federal government missed the boat on this one, big-time.
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