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You realize you re quoting a SCIENCE FICTION writer, no?
Robert Heinlein was also Navy Officer, Inventor, Engineer, Silver Miner, Real Estate Agent and politician. Good example for his quote himself, I would dare say
In the early days of this country, the movers and shakers nearly all had these traits, Daniel Webster is a good example of this.
It's a good guideline.
Hah.
Most people, as soon as they earned some amount of money deemed successful and rich, stopped doing manual labor themselves. It is just normal progression of things. If you are well to do, you sweat for exercise and pleasure, not because you are dying to break your back digging ditches or laying fences. You let the people who have no other means of making a living to that. The families of well to do all enjoyed the wealth (even though many times it was acquired illegally, esp. in the 1800s and early 1900s). Even in the 1880s (blasphemy!) they had servants and hired hands, you know.
By your definition, anyone not doing manual work is stupid and lazy and spoiled.
Most people, as soon as they earned some amount of money deemed successful and rich, stopped doing manual labor themselves. It is just normal progression of things. If you are well to do, you sweat for exercise and pleasure, not because you are dying to break your back digging ditches or laying fences. You let the people who have no other means of making a living to that. The families of well to do all enjoyed the wealth (even though many times it was acquired illegally, esp. in the 1800s and early 1900s). Even in the 1880s (blasphemy!) they had servants and hired hands, you know.
By your definition, anyone not doing manual work is stupid and lazy and spoiled.
You are a perfect model for the proletariat?
Personal attacks and insults, what a surprise.
Nor'eastah and Happy in Wyoming were right. It's pointless to try to talk to you.
Bye- Bye.
Last edited by MTSilvertip; 07-08-2015 at 09:47 AM..
OP: I guess you would say my own upbringing. My parents were depression children and went through WWII as adults. They had 5 kids and struggled to put food on the table and clothes on our backs. In JR. High, I only had two pairs of pants. We ate good, but we weren't given much. I started working when I was 13 and have worked pretty much ever since. I worked my way through college, and lived in some no so nice places to afford it all. Now, as you say, I see all kinds of people living on the dole, living in huge debt, and the govt. running up huge debt. It can't go on forever, so our plan is to go back to our roots, so to speak. We're too old to start a farm and become self sufficient in growing our own food etc. So our goal is to learn to live on as little as possible. Minimalism. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
" Small Things That Compelled You into Survival and Preparedness ". My father was a fighter pilot. Some of my ancestors died defending the Alamo. I grew up in the suburbs at the edge of the wild hills and 30 miles from the sea. I bought my first horse with babysitting money at age 15, and rode that mare to the sea and back. From the hill tops the town down there looked to me like a pile of garbage. I moved away to Texas and worked my way through nursing school, learned about medical care of human beings, retired young, put out to pasture, bucked my bridle off whoopee
Back on the west coast where I live now in an isolated earthquake zone, its not a question of if, but when. So I have a stock of prep items and food producing livestock, and a good Arabian horse to ride in these mountains above the sea. I also keep basic medical items. When the highway bridges shake down I can be of some service.
Knowing and being able to do things by yourself and doing it all the time for living are two different things...
Exactly. I have put in my own fencing on a few acres of rock underneath the thin soil. I have built things. Would I do it again? Hell no, that's what the hired labor is for.
Nor'eastah and Happy in Wyoming were right. It's pointless to try to talk to you.
Bye- Bye.
Oops. After spewing insults and pooh-pooh all over people "with cell phones" and the "people who only sweat in the gym", now you got offended. Boo hoo
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