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Old 08-23-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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I think a good thing to watch is "Alone in the wilderness" (also available in book form). It takes place in Alaska, main protagonist is Dick Proenecke, spent 40+ years in a self-built cabin in the woods. He did have a friend flying supplies in every few months but still. Dick started all this I believe in his 50s, so not very young and he did it all by himself. IMHO, much more realistic story than the Lyskovs who were just plain nuts... Also, why drag your children into it? Children don't have a choice in being part of this zealotry.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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I thought you said Lone Wolfs couldn't make it?
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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I thought you said Lone Wolfs couldn't make it?
He wasn't a lone wolf. He had friends and family checking in on him and his friend flew supplies in regularly. I don't think Dick would have survived all on his own. In any case, he did better than most of us for sure. Watch the DVD or read the book, it is a pretty nice story and none of the prepper crap in it, just a simple story of someone who did something pretty cool, guided just by the desire for solitude and to test himself.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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he lived ALONE(in the wilderness) therefore he was a LONE wolf. don't split hairs.
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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he lived ALONE(in the wilderness) therefore he was a LONE wolf. don't split hairs.
But he said his brother was regularly flying supplies in. Can't really claim to be a lone wolf when there's regular assistance.
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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depends how regular those visits were, if its only every couple of months that means he's on his own for most of the time, so anything could happen and he wont have any help until the plane arrives, if its in the winter it could be months. ok so i'll concede this one, he did have SOME help but I wouldn't call it much help.its not like he had a group at the cabin full time.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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They're not a good example if you're looking for an ideal blueprint of how to survive in the wilderness, but they're certainly an inspiration (notwithstanding the religious zealotry). They proved to be remarkably hardy. It's fascinating to hear how they survived out there (er, for the most part), and they considered themselves to be happy. 40+ years is a helluva long time to be out there.
They weren't hardy. They just lowered their personal bar extremely low. Their bar seems to be "alive."

If they were able to stay alive from day to day, they declared themselves "happy." They seemed to have virtually no "quality of life" nor were they able to even learn/use wilderness techniques from a long time ago to preserve or grow food.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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They weren't hardy. They just lowered their personal bar extremely low. Their bar seems to be "alive."

If they were able to stay alive from day to day, they declared themselves "happy." They seemed to have virtually no "quality of life" nor were they able to even learn/use wilderness techniques from a long time ago to preserve or grow food.
Depends on what your definition of quality of life is. Their definition was being able to worship in the way that they deemed fit.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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depends how regular those visits were, if its only every couple of months that means he's on his own for most of the time, so anything could happen and he wont have any help until the plane arrives, if its in the winter it could be months. ok so i'll concede this one, he did have SOME help but I wouldn't call it much help.its not like he had a group at the cabin full time.
It's a nice story, watch the DVD or read the book and don't spoil it with your banter
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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I find this story incredibly sad and fascinating.

I agree that to drag your kids into it isn't really fair and the story would have been a little more satisfying if it weren't for the abject poverty.

Thanks for sharing.
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