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Old 12-10-2015, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Well use your imagination and add your outcomes while we patiently wait for Germany to supply us with replacement grid parts
which in a Congressional report could take 1- 1/2 years to restore. It is predicted that 90% of US population will die within the
first year and here is why.

Americans are the worst prepared disaster folks in the world
With all vehicle computers knocked out the grid lock of cars and trucks and RV's will not permit any movement anywhere.
Cell phone systems knock out even those in faraday sheds/metal garbage cans still useless
All pumps gas,toilet, water, sanitation, wells, dams, heat pumps, nuclear plant pumps etc. knocked out
NO showers ( unless gravity solar) No flushing toilets ( unless rain water or tube full for a while) No running anything
( unless a fuelless generator with solar and a full tank of gas to generatate power to generator ( a crank type also may help)
In high rises no elevator , Waste will be thrown out broken windows and pile on sidewalks and cars below ( thousands of pounds of poop)
NO food available unless bardered . No delivery systems including FEMA and RED Cross. (Some chopper drops but few) no planes. except vintage aircraft without computer assisted controls., but no towers no lights once generators ( gas are empty) on runways.
No money exchange No banks No ATMs No operational public restrooms. No laundry, No garbage pick up . No body removal
(OH! don' go in their!!! (Mass cremation or pits ,but bulldozer help or front end loaders to bury millions)
Hospitals, Nursing homes unstaffed and patients dying quickly. No means of care including homecare , medications and most
facilities of care locked down. Most ventilator patients including neonates will die quickly as no bulk gas will be depleated and back up manifolds
of Htanksand E tanks will be empty with zero hope of replacement. Anoneonlife support , renal dialysis , overdoses will die .
Need to protect whatever food or supplies including pet food with many rounds of ammo 9mm pistols hollow points and shotguns recommended or looters will kill you without warning and desperation.
You will not get assistance from anyone unless you formed a network of prepper neighbors as suggested by FEMA.

The grid is vunerable even worldwide via a sun flare ,but if a enemy source can enter the Gulf undetected under a false flag
they could fire two warheads in an atmospheric blast to mimic a EMP one over lets say Kanas and one over Nevada.
The answer to survival rests in preparation ,but that is not going to happen and America will be a waste land for take over
by foreign powers because we are to complacant and ignorant albeit too affluent.

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Old 12-10-2015, 10:19 PM
 
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And why would all these dire predictions happen if the grid just went down? We'll still have electricity just localized instead of distributed. Vehicles and aircraft will still function. Televisions and radios will still turn on. Porno stores and bars will still be able to open. We'll just have to adjust to the change. A enterprising person can open an Electric Bar using local available resources to power the generation system. Of course if this isn't just the "grid" going down but an EMP (or similar) event, that's a lot different that the "Life After Grids".
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:50 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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If we are destroyed by an EMP, I guess I'll have to drive my old F-100 pickup with a carburetor and a three on the tree stick shift, and manual roll up windows. The eight-track tape deck died years ago, so I won't have music, but otherwise it should work fine. I'll have to get my shortwave receiver out of my metal (and hopefully EMP proof) storage cabinet. I'll start up my magneto generator and plug in the refrigerator, and we will keep the beer and burgers cold, at least until the gas is gone.

For light at night, we'll probably revert to one of the several red kerosene lanterns I've collected over the years. Or maybe use the solar rechargable lantern I picked up a few years ago, and just replaced the battery in this year. And when we can't get any more batteries I'll use one of the kinetic energy flashlights I bought back when the world was going to end in 2000. You shake it back and forth for awhile and it lights up for about 5 minutes. Lasts forever.

Since phones and electronic gizmos will mostly be toast (thank ghod, finally some peace and sanity) I will refer to my LIBRARY of about 2,000 books for info. I will get my GRMS radios and GPS receiver out of my metal (and hopefully EMP proof) camping trunk and I'll be able to talk to others nearby at least.

GPS may or may not work, or partially work or be scrambled by the military, if they are still around. In case it doesn't I have some of those antique paper things they called MAPS. For those of you under 30, back in the old days when you wanted to get from point A to point B, you would unfold these giant paper napkin things in your lap and figure out if you were on the right road, trail or whatever in a process called, "orienteering." The AAA used to give them away free to members. I have actually navigated my way clear across the country using one. The one flaw is they are so complicated to put away that nobody has ever figured out how to refold one back to it's original size or shape, and people have actually gone crazy trying.

And if I need to sail to a foreign shore I have a compass, sextant and various books to remind me how to take a sun sight, and I know how to sail. I admit I am lacking in nautical charts. But I know the stars. Sort of. Well, OK I can find Orion and the Big Dipper and North Star, and Southern Cross, what else is there to know.

If I need to get around I know where there's a couple of old Citabria's, and Piper Cubs from the 40's that don't require electronics to run or fly. I plan to grab one and fly it to a friend's relatively remote cabin, which just happens to have a nice reasonably straight road out front.

If we get hungry there's miles of agriculture nearby, and a river for water, elk in the mountains, rattlesnakes underfoot, too many dam barking dogs around anyway, and when that's all gone, we'll BBQ up some of the neighbors.

As for the rest... we have a hydroelectric dam nearby. We (meaning the community and workers - if alive) "should" be able to get it running at some point and have local power anyway. With power we will have sewage and water pumps, and lights, and refrigeration, and maybe the basics of needs for hospitals, and fundamental services of a civilized society to rebuild...

IF... everyone hasn't killed each other first.

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Old 12-11-2015, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Deep 13
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Seems like OP has a different form of erotica than I do.
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Looks like someone read One Second After.
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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99% of people that starve to death do so in the mist of an abundance of food. I suggest people learn that food.
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Old 12-12-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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What will happen? You will need to read an old fashioned paper book in the candlelight
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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I live at my retreat. I'll begin distilling alcohol for the ten percent of the population who are alcoholics. Prices will be set in gold.

It sounds good to me.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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We have no grid power where we live. Others would have to learn to do what we do - make our own electricity. All of it...by one method or another. Gas stations and ATMs would be closed, which is why we store gas and cash, as well as other stuff. We produce enough of our own food that grocery store closings would not affect us much. Nothing much to buy....nowhere much to go. Just another day!
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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And why would all these dire predictions happen if the grid just went down? We'll still have electricity just localized instead of distributed. Vehicles and aircraft will still function. Televisions and radios will still turn on. Porno stores and bars will still be able to open. We'll just have to adjust to the change. A enterprising person can open an Electric Bar using local available resources to power the generation system. Of course if this isn't just the "grid" going down but an EMP (or similar) event, that's a lot different that the "Life After Grids".
It's very simple really. You can't be a superhero in a prepper fantasy world without dire consequences to contend with.
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