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But may I add an ADDENDUM re the 2nd Amend. & most important article which is -- the RIGHT to bear arms & this right -- is/shall be given unto granted & is not taken away from our inalienable rights, period.
The 1st Amend. allows the right to speak -- but
not the liberty to say anything you want. Since this country was born & founded upon Christian principles/doctrine, it stand to the rights of Const. as written -- as they stand as law.
If rudeness is at stake, Biblically you decide is it in line w/ behavior that's w/ the Lord Above.
Ain't my -- nor anyone earthly person's say that matters -- it is His, period.
re religious freedoms; if other countries come here & claim anti-Christian views then -- it is against the US Christian doctrine founders -- & thus subject not to open dialogue but needs be kept w/in their groups.
You can not wander around creating disturbances or disorderly conduct while spouting off ANY religion
(or ANY propaganda or w/ a boom box held high on you shoulder blaring Natl Pubic Radio daily - PERIOD)
& get away w/ it -- at very least it is Disorderly Conduct but yet if taken further -- Inciting a Riot.
If this isn't perfectly clear I don't know what is?
To 2 Rainbows: Simmer down as most folks here are behind keypads &
are about as serious or riled as a bear in deep sleep. Ain't gonna happen
trying to call out or debate those you oppose -- waste of time & lt'll go nowhere.
Gotta just live n let is IMHO.
Agreed, - and
so you understand, I was not in the least 'riled-up', &
why I will NOT respond to most trouble-making liberals. I responded to Caldwell's "killing the Innocent"
only because I thought it was against the TOS, but maybe mods here don't care?
Just letting friends know, those 2 named Liberal-clowns are just that: "clowns". Not worth my time.
I have soo many Interesting & productive projects on my plate.
movintime- Be careful characterizing rights as inalienable. That leads places that very few I have met want to go. Most like THEIR rights, and deem others' rights okay as long as they agree on how the rights are exercised, but are quick to deplore the exercise of rights when the result conflicts with their own views. For instance, is the 2A inalienable? I say it is. You say it is. An inalienable right belongs to any man, even a violence-preaching moslem in your neighborhood. Should he be allowed to possess an AK of whatever flavor he deems desirable? I say he should. What say you? Remember, liberty was not designed to be safe or comfortable. It was designed to make the individual the supreme arbiter of his own life, and to allow him to stand or fall on the choices made.
movintime- Be careful characterizing rights as inalienable. That leads places that very few I have met want to go. Most like THEIR rights, and deem others' rights okay as long as they agree on how the rights are exercised, but are quick to deplore the exercise of rights when the result conflicts with their own views. For instance, is the 2A inalienable? I say it is. You say it is. An inalienable right belongs to any man, even a violence-preaching moslem in your neighborhood. Should he be allowed to possess an AK of whatever flavor he deems desirable? I say he should. What say you? Remember, liberty was not designed to be safe or comfortable. It was designed to make the individual the supreme arbiter of his own life, and to allow him to stand or fall on the choices made.
Ok, I prefer saying UN-alienable vs IN-alienable as the way Thom Jefferson used it in Dec. of Indp.
But hold on a min. if he is peaceful & abides by our laws, & not try to institute their laws (aka Sharia, etc.) then by all means he has the right to own it. But if he uses it illegally or in threatening violent ways -- then clearly that right is not exclusive & shall be revoked -- as should it be w/ any NON-law abiding citizen regardless of creed (this saying he's a citizen legally here in 1st place). But I do get your drift & thx countryboy...
THE REPUBLICAN FORM IS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH A REPUBLIC NOR IS IT A DEMOCRACY
:-:-: A REMINDER :-:-:
“The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the Rights of mankind.”
- - - Thomas Jefferson https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
“I firmly believe that the benevolent Creator designed the republican Form of Government for Man.”
- - - Samuel Adams;
Statement of (14 April 1785), quoted in The Writings of Samuel Adams (1904) edited by Harry A. Cushing http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Samuel_Adams
“Republicanism is not the phantom of a deluded imagination. On the contrary, laws, under no form of government, are better supported, liberty and property better secured, or happiness more effectually dispensed to mankind.”
- - - George Washington (1732-1799) Father of the Country, 1st President of the United States http://founders.archives.gov/documen.../05-17-02-0282
"What I do say is that no man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. I say this is the leading principle, the sheet-anchor of American republicanism. Our Declaration of Independence says: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
- - - Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois (1854) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_lincoln
As Lincoln reminds us, under the republican form, endowed by our Creator, promised by the USCON, instituted by the Declaration of Independence, NO MAN (nor American government) is good enough to govern you without your consent. Without your consent, all that government is authorized to do is secure endowed (sacred) rights (prosecute trespass; adjudicate disputes; defend against enemies, foreign or domestic).
. . .
The "source" of the republican form is the DECLARATION, and the "origin" is the CREATOR.
Which may explain why it is never taught in "government authorized" educational institutions.
. . .
Coincidentally, there is no other nation on earth with a republican form - where the people are sovereigns and the government is their servant - unless they CONSENT otherwise.
- - -
Unfortunately, since 1933, the united States of America have operated under the permanent "temporary" rules of Emergency that have implemented national socialism, and effectively instituted the People's Democratic Socialist Republic.
In Maine, we live in the only conservative county, and it's a large one - Piscataquis. Now, we have always found northern Maine to be depressed; as Sub notes, a lot of the lumber mills are closing. None of that surprised me. Rhode Island is pretty much a bellweather state in the northeast - if a recession is about to hit, RI is in a funk before it hits! So that didn't surprise me, either.
But I get down here to TN to start up the spring poultry operation...and WTH?! It's just as bad here, and this is not a liberal area of ther state! I can hire up all the help I need at minimum, and these are not kids, but mature working people who need extra $$$ just to get by.
So I'm grateful for all your helpful comments about your necks of the woods. I'm not at all sure this is a liberal vs conservative thing, probably more about those areas of the country that never really recovered from the last recession. Rather than the east picking up, I would be concerned about the rest sliding down, so be mindful of the trend and watch what's really going on.
As a native Tennessean, a lot of misinformation gets put out about the state's overall economic health. Many, many publications hype Tennessee as some great Sun Belt hope, but what they're really referring to is the boom going on in metro Nashville. The truth is most of the rest of the state is pretty screwed up.
Most of the rest of the state is just holding steady to rapidly declining in some areas. The small metro I'm in (Kingsport-Bristol) on the extreme northeast end of the state is just hanging on. Some months we gain a few jobs, other months we lose a few. There were nine housing starts in the first half of last year. My drive into work passes a lot of ramshackle houses that are no longer being maintained and boarded up businesses that, ten years ago, were operational.
There is a lot of talk about the loss of manufacturing jobs, and while we have certainly lost our fair share of those, many talking heads often forget the associated office jobs that went along with these manufacturing operations. A Japanese glass producing firm was once headquartered in Kingsport. The plant closed a decade ago, but the office jobs were safe, for awhile. Those jobs were eventually sent to Atlanta, and the people who didn't go were fired. Not only did you lose the manufacturing base, but there were also a lot of unemployed accounting/finance staff, IT workers, supply chain experts, even senior managers, etc., for which there were few local jobs. Numerous businesses relocated from here to major urban areas. What replaced those jobs were call centers, low wage retail and food service, cash for gold stores, check cashing operations, pawn shops, title loan places, etc. Our main street is basically littered with these junk businesses and the area has mostly junk jobs.
From here, things look pretty bad, but not as bad as some of the surrounding rural areas. As people have lost jobs and income, they've not only lost their income, but the community has taken a hit - financial and otherwise. Many people seem to have lost their pride. Things like church and civic participation seem to be way down from when I was a kid. Substance abuse, domestic violence, and related crimes are very high. Schools are not as good.
I'm 30, and most of the motivated people I went to high school with left the area. The remaining young people are not as motivated or productive. It's unlikely companies will want to relocate to an area where there isn't a well-equipped, or even trainable, labor force for future, higher tech jobs.
Of course, if you're in metro Nashville where new companies are relocating virtually every day, jobs are being created, people are getting wealthier, etc., things look great.
Many, many publications hype Tennessee as some great Sun Belt hope, but what they're really referring to is the boom going on in metro Nashville. The truth is most of the rest of the state is pretty screwed up.
Tell me about it!
I am not in Nashville, obviously...I'm running a poultry operation in a rural area that is south-central in the state. I am just getting our first batch of baby chicks, 240 at a time. I had asked some neighbors about hiring part-time for feeding and watering and cleaning brooding areas. I figured if they had a HS kid who wanted some afternoon work...but no, the parents themselves wanted the jobs!
Up where we live in Maine, you can find help, but they want medical insurance. In TN, they don't care!
I am not in Nashville, obviously...I'm running a poultry operation in a rural area that is south-central in the state. I am just getting our first batch of baby chicks, 240 at a time. I had asked some neighbors about hiring part-time for feeding and watering and cleaning brooding areas. I figured if they had a HS kid who wanted some afternoon work...but no, the parents themselves wanted the jobs!
Up where we live in Maine, you can find help, but they want medical insurance. In TN, they don't care!
The unemployment rate here is rising, salaries declining, etc. Things have gone in reverse for about the past year. Until then, things were on a slow rise for the past four years or so.
What's strange is that, although the numbers for the area don't look good, many business owners complain they can't find quality workers, even at the low end. Around here, it's hard to find someone who is literate, doesn't have a criminal background, and can pass a drug test. You end up with this weird situation where unemployment is rising, most jobs are low skill, yet there aren't people to fill them.
If the state took control of religion, at least your filthy heathen heresies could be stamped out. All true Christians know that Heaven is a mohammedan corruption of the true faith brought back to Europe by crusaders. Christians sleep until the resurrection, they await the coming of the Kingdom of God on Earth. They do not go to some heathen paradise. If we could teach children true religion in school, they could learn the truth instead of the fairy tales and lies their parents teach them.
I am thoroughly confused by what in the heck is Larry Caldwell talking about??????????? However, having finished reading the various comments, I realize that it is just another of his combative responses so nevermind. Just another frontal lobe spasm on his part.
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projects on my plate.
