You don't think shotguns would be banned if assault rifles get banned...think again! (farming, natural)

[doc1]

Originally Posted by greatblueheron

I don't want your shotgun, just your assault weapons.

Too many Federal hoops to jump through to purchase an assault weapon.Lots of paperwork, record keeping, etc.

They're also crazy expensive, a few thousand at the bottom end.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by Tetto

And you need a 500 HP Corvette why? You need alcohol why? Speed limit is 65, and alcohol kills many, many people every year. Start there and then we can talk about guns when you are successful with that.

Shhh, don't give them anymore ideas. Although I suspect those are on their hit list already, just further down.

[Airborneguy]

Originally Posted by greatblueheron

I don't want your shotgun, just your assault weapons.

I want them more than you, so I think I will keep them instead.

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by TRex2

Trend analysis shows our "civilization" will implode between 6 and 16 years from now.
(Clinton got almost 50% of the popular vote, and with all of
the fraudulent votes, she actually got a bit over 50%)

We have work to do.
And people to train.

Originally Posted by Mircea

There's a serious effort to silence anything that doesn't fit into the Liberal narrative. That will only serve to further divide the people.

16 years sounds about right.

I welcome it.

I state is as 6 to 16 years because it is easy to remember,
but I really don't see us making a full 16 years.

My current bet is the year 2030, if nobody nukes us,
and the Demoncrats don't do something stupid enough
to plunge us into a revolution.

[countryboy73]

Train yourself. Train your children. Train your friends, good neighbors, extended family, anyone who will train and is ideologically aligned with you. A war is coming(I hope, only because I see war as better than surrender to this evil), and we who fight may be fewer than those we oppose. Therefore we need to extract a heavy price for each casualty we accrue. No dying cheaply on our side. Make them do that.

Debate is pointless now, the sides are set. We of course will not initiate the use of force, we will keep to the moral high ground as we always have. But when the other side graduates from spewing emotional diatribes to actively fighting for their agenda, we need to be ready to stamp out the stupidity once and for all. No more tolerance for the ninnies who have been told that their opinion matters even if it is wrong. No more giving up rights to hopefully shut them up. No more tolerance of infringement of the rights of the individual because the seething masses cry for it. Liberty will either be reinstated, or it will be gone forever. If it is brought back, I will be happy to help in that effort. If it slips into history, never to return, I will be gone and not here to see it. I hope there are more like me.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by TRex2

I state is as 6 to 16 years because it is easy to remember,
but I really don't see us making a full 16 years.

My current bet is the year 2030, if nobody nukes us,
and the Demoncrats don't do something stupid enough
to plunge us into a revolution.

Are you familiar with astrology and its concepts?

Well, for a crash-course if you're not, a chart is cast for the founding of a country, and for the US, many believe that was the date of the Declaration of Independence. It just so happens that in that chart, the planet Uranus happens to be sitting on the Descendant, which is the point exactly opposite the Ascendant, and both of those omens together suggest extreme change, since Uranus is the planet that disrupts things and forces changes.

Okay, fast-forward as Uranus moves through its orbit and the next time Uranus is exactly opposite the Ascendant is April 1861, which was the start of the Civil War.

Fast-forward again, and the next time Uranus is opposite the Ascendant is during the month of February 1945 -- right at the time of the Yalta Conference, and the big change is the US assumes the leadership of the Free-World.

The next time Uranus will be opposite the Ascendant is May 2028, a little over 10 years from now, and some people are anticipating major changes in the US, although what exactly might happen is anybody's guess.

[Airborneguy]

Weeeeeiiiiiii-rrrrrdddddd

[TRex2]

Originally Posted by countryboy73

Train yourself. Train your children. Train your friends, good neighbors, extended family, anyone who will train and is ideologically aligned with you.
...

Debate is pointless now, the sides are set. ....

I agree with the basics of what you are saying.
You sound like one of the Sipsey Street Irregulars.

Originally Posted by Mircea

Are you familiar with astrology and its concepts?
...
The next time Uranus will be opposite the Ascendant is May 2028, a little over 10 years from now, and some people are anticipating major changes in the US, although what exactly might happen is anybody's guess.

I generally give no credence to Astrology, though I often
notice the confluence of events.

[ChrisC]

There is a poster above (I shan't mention names) whose posts I have read over the course of quite a number of years. He occasionally posts here, but more often posts in the politics forum. Knowing the typical flavor his posts, knowing the logical and critical thinking skills he possesses, and knowing the attitudes he generally exhibits, I can't help but to declare that his last several posts are nothing but toying around. He's not serious and he certainly does not himself hold any of the opinions, views, and beliefs expressed. He's not taking this thread seriously.

Either that or a zombie has invaded his mind...

Whichever it is, I wouldn't take those posts seriously or bother to rebut them.

[walker1962]

Originally Posted by WRM20

Actually, those are listed in the section for firearms that are exempt. Which is stupid, because that section also exempts rifles like the Mini-14, the Remington 7400, etc that are functionally identical to so called assault rifles, but aren't "ugly".

This is only a small portion of the listed guns that are exempt from the Assault weapons ban.
APPENDIX A--FIREARMS EXEMPTED BY THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN OF 2017

Centerfire Rifles--Autoloaders

"Benelli R1 Rifle
"Browning BAR Mark II Safari Magnum Rifle
"Browning BAR Mark II Safari Semi-Auto Rifle
"Browning BAR Stalker Rifles
"Browning High-Power Rifle
"Browning Longtrac Rifle
"Browning Shorttrac Rifle
"Heckler & Koch HK630
"Heckler & Koch HK770
"Heckler & Koch HK940
"Heckler & Koch Model 300 Rifle
"Heckler & Koch SL7 Rifle
"Iver Johnson 50th Anniversary M-1 Carbine (w/o folding stock)
"Iver Johnson M-1 Carbine (w/o folding stock)
"M-1 Carbines with standard fixed stock
"M-1 Garand with fixed 8 round capacity and standard stock
"Marlin Model 9 Camp Carbine
"Marlin Model 45 Carbine
"Remington Model 74
"Remington Model 81
"Remington Model 740
"Remington Model 742
"Remington Model 750 Synthetic
"Remington Model 750 Woodmaster
"Remington Model 7400 Rifle
"Remington Model 7400 Special Purpose Auto Rifle
"Remington Nylon 66 Auto-Loading Rifle
"Ruger Mini 30
"Ruger Mini-14 (w/o folding or telescoping stock or pistol grip)
"Ruger PC4
"Ruger PC9
"SKS type rifles with fixed 10 round magazine and standard fixed stock
"Winchester Model SXR
Centerfire Rifles--Lever & Slide

"Action Arms Timber Wolf Pump Action
"Beretta 1873 Renegade Lever Action
"Beretta Gold Rush Slide Action
"Big Horn Armory Model 89
"Browning BLR Model 181 Lever Action, All Models
"Browning BPR Pump Rifle
"Browning Model 53 Lever Action
"Browning Model 65 Grade 1 Lever Action Rifle
"Browning Model 71 Rifle and Carbine
"Browning Model 81 BLR
"Browning Model 81 BLR Lever-Action Rifle
"Browning Model 81 Long Action BLR
"Browning Model 1886 High Grade Carbine
"Browning Model 1886 Lever-Action Carbine
"Browning Model B-92 Carbine
"Charles Daly Model 1892 Lever Action, All Models
"Chiappa 1886 Lever Action Rifles
"Cimarron 1860 Henry Replica
"Cimarron 1866 Winchester Replicas
"Cimarron 1873 30″ Express Rifle
"Cimarron 1873 Short Rifle
"Cimarron 1873 Sporting Rifle
"Cimarron 1873 Winchester Replicas
"Dixie Engraved 1873 Rifle
"Dixie Lightning Rifle and Carbines
"E.M.F. 1860 Henry Rifle
"E.M.F. 1866 Yellowboy Lever Actions
"E.M.F. Model 73 Lever-Action Rifle
"E.M.F. Model 1873 Lever Actions
"Henry .30/30 Lever Action Carbine
"Henry Big Boy .357 Magnum
"Henry Big Boy .44 Magnum
"Henry Big Boy .45 Colt
"Henry Big Boy Deluxe Engraved .44 Magnum
"Henry Big Boy Deluxe Engraved .45 Colt
"Marlin Model 30AS Lever-Action Carbine
"Marlin Model 62 Lever Action
"Marlin Model 93 Lever Action
"Marlin Model 308MX
"Marlin Model 308MXLR
"Marlin Model 336 Deluxe
"Marlin Model 336C
"Marlin Model 336CS Lever-Action Carbine
"Marlin Model 336DL Lever Action
"Marlin Model 336SS
"Marlin Model 336W
"Marlin Model 336XLR
"Marlin Model 338MX
"Marlin Model 338MXLR
"Marlin Model 444
"Marlin Model 444 Lever-Action
"Marlin Model 444XLR
"Marlin Model 1894 Marlin Model 1894 Cowboy
"Marlin Model 1894 Lever Action, All Models
"Marlin Model 1894C
"Marlin Model 1894CL Classic
"Marlin Model 1894CS Carbine
"Marlin Model 1894S Lever-Action Carbine
"Marlin Model 1894SS
"Marlin Model 1895
"Marlin Model 1895 Cowboy
"Marlin Model 1895 Lever Action, All Models
"Marlin Model 1895G
"Marlin Model 1895GS
"Marlin Model 1895M
"Marlin Model 1895MXLR
"Marlin Model 1895SBL
"Marlin Model 1895SS Lever-Action Rifle
"Marlin Model 1895XLR
"Marlin XLR Lever Action Rifles
"Mitchell 1858 Henry Replica
"Mitchell 1866 Winchester Replica
"Mitchell 1873 Winchester Replica
"Mossberg 464 Lever Action Rifle
"Mossberg Model 472 Lever Action
"Mossberg Model 479 Lever Action
"Navy Arms 1866 Yellowboy Rifle
"Navy Arms 1873 Sporting Rifle
"Navy Arms 1873 Winchester-Style Rifle
"Navy Arms 1892 Short Rifle
"Navy Arms Henry Carbine
"Navy Arms Henry Trapper
"Navy Arms Iron Frame Henry
"Navy Arms Military Henry Rifle
"Puma Bounty Hunter Rifle
"Puma Model 92 Rifles & Carbines
"Remington 7600 Slide Action
"Remington Model 6 Pump Action
"Remington Model 14, 141⁄2 Pump Actions
"Remington Model 141 Pump Action
"Remington Model 760 Slide Actions
"Remington Model 7600 Special Purpose Slide Action
"Remington Model 7600 Synthetic
"Remington Model 7615 Camo Hunter
"Remington Model 7615 Ranch Carbine
"Remington Model 7615 SPS
"Rossi M92 SRC Saddle-Ring Carbine
"Rossi M92 SRS Short Carbine
"Rossi R92 Lever Action Carbines
"Ruger Model 96/44 Lever Action
"Savage 99C Lever-Action Rifle
"Savage Model 170 Pump Action
"Taurus Thunderbolt Pump Action
"Taylor's & CO., Inc. 1865 Spencer Carbine/Rifle
"Taylor's & CO., Inc. 1892 Carbine/Rifle
"U.S. Fire Arms Standard Lightning Magazine Rifle
"Uberti 1866 Sporting Rifle Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle
"Uberti 1876 Rifle
"Uberti 1883 Burgess Lever Action Rifle/Carbine
"Uberti Henry Rifle
"Uberti Lightning Rifle/Carbine
"Winchester Lever Actions, All Other Center Fire Models
"Winchester Model 94 Big Bore Side Eject
"Winchester Model 94 Ranger Side Eject Lever-Action Rifle
"Winchester Model 94 Side Eject Lever-Action Rifle
"Winchester Model 94 Trapper Side Eject
"Winchester Model 94 Wrangler Side Eject
"Winchester Model 1895 Safari Centennial
Centerfire Rifles--Bolt Action