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Old 04-25-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So, I haven’t made up my mind what to think about this yet, but it does raise an interesting perspective. What’s interesting to me is someone trying to assign some rough probabilities to it that don’t make it seem such a long shot occurrence.

https://medium.com/@bjcampbell/the-s...r-15fce7d10437

“But You’re Cheating
Am I? Two instances in 340 years [speaking of revolutions on the American continent] is not a great data pool to work with, I will grant, but if you take a grab sample of other countries around the world you’ll see this could be much worse. Since our 1678 benchmark, Russia has had a two world wars, a civil war, a revolution, and at least half a dozen uprisings, depending on how you want to count them. Depending on when you start the clock, France had a 30-year war, a 7-year war, a particularly nasty revolution, a counter-revolution, this Napoleon thing, and a couple of World Wars tacked on the end. China, North Korea, Vietnam, and basically most of the Pacific Rim has had some flavor of violent revolution in the last 100 years, sometimes more than one. Africa is … hard to even conceive where to start and end the data points. Most Central and South American countries have had significant qualifying events in the time span. And honestly, if we were to widen our analysis to not only include nationwide violent civil wars, but also instances of slavery, internment, and taking of native lands, our own numbers go way up.”
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Great article. Speaks well to the analytical mind, mostly because it is written by a person with such a mind. Unfortunately, most of the people intended as the audience for the article do not possess analytical minds. This is an obvious fact, because objective analysis of data associated with liberal talking points leads the analytical mind to a conclusion that the liberal positon is often based on nothing factual, and indeed ignores the facts. Doing the math is not the strong suit of the useful idiots being cultivated as future cannon fodder by the American socialist leadership. A pity, because we sure could use a generation of free-thinking, analytical objectivists right about now...
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Old 04-25-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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So, I haven’t made up my mind what to think about this yet, but it does raise an interesting perspective. What’s interesting to me is someone trying to assign some rough probabilities to it that don’t make it seem such a long shot occurrence.

https://medium.com/@bjcampbell/the-s...r-15fce7d10437

“But You’re Cheating
Am I? Two instances in 340 years [speaking of revolutions on the American continent] is not a great data pool to work with, I will grant, but if you take a grab sample of other countries around the world you’ll see this could be much worse. Since our 1678 benchmark, Russia has had a two world wars, a civil war, a revolution, and at least half a dozen uprisings, depending on how you want to count them. Depending on when you start the clock, France had a 30-year war, a 7-year war, a particularly nasty revolution, a counter-revolution, this Napoleon thing, and a couple of World Wars tacked on the end. China, North Korea, Vietnam, and basically most of the Pacific Rim has had some flavor of violent revolution in the last 100 years, sometimes more than one. Africa is … hard to even conceive where to start and end the data points. Most Central and South American countries have had significant qualifying events in the time span. And honestly, if we were to widen our analysis to not only include nationwide violent civil wars, but also instances of slavery, internment, and taking of native lands, our own numbers go way up.”
Entertainment for imbeciles. The dice have no memory.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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There is some logic in using comparative data from other countries. There is greater logic in considering our own mega trends. The looming debt, social division, public health, and loss of freedoms all pose varying catalysts for macro changes.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Good article. The author did some research too.

Thank you.

Edit: He left out a few armed conflicts in the US

war of 1812 [though this finalized the revolutionary war],
1813–1814 Creek War
1817–1818 First Seminole War
1827 Winnebago War
1831 Nat Turner's Rebellion
1832 Black Hawk War
1835–1842 Second Seminole War
1838 Missouri Mormon War
1838–1839 Aroostook War
1841–1842 Dorr War
1845 Milwaukee Bridge War
1846–1848 Mexican–American War
1846 Battle of Palo Alto
1846 Battle of Resaca de la Palma
1846 Occupation of Santa Fe
1846 Battle of Monterey
1846 Siege of Los Angeles
1846 Battle of San Pasqual
1846 Battle of Rio San Gabriel
1848–1855 Cayuse War
1854–1858 Bleeding Kansas
1855–1858 Third Seminole War
1857–1858 Utah War
1859 Pig War
1860 Pyramid Lake War
1862 Dakota War
1863–1865 Colorado Weed
1864 Sand Creek Massacre
1866–1868 Red Cloud's War
1867–1875 Comanche War
1872–1873 Modoc War
1876–1877 Black Hills War
1877 Nez Percé War
1878 Lincoln County War
1882 Pleasant Valley War
1890–1891 Ghost Dance War
1889–1893 Johnson County War
1878–1900 Colorado Range War
1891–1893 Garza Revolution
1898 Spanish–American War

During WWI, 1918 German submarine SM U-156 attacks the port of Orleans, Massachusetts on July 21, sinking several small vessels, in an action which became known as the Bombardment of Orleans.

During WWII
1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
1942 Bombardment of Fort Stevens, Oregon by Japanese submarine I-25
1942 The Lookout Air Raids by a floatplane from Japanese submarine I-25; incendiary bombs were dropped
1942–1943 World War II Battle of the Aleutian Islands in Alaska.
1944–1945 Fire balloon bombing of the US by Japanese balloon bombs

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Old 04-26-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Even More important, he seems to have left out the Battle of Athens (1946)

https://www.americanheritage.com/content/battle-athens
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Since the Civil War, political offices in McMinn County had gone to the Republicans, but in the 1930s Tennessee began to fall under the control of Democratic bosses. To the west, in Shelby County, E.H. Crump, the Memphis mayor who had been ousted during his term for failing to enforce Prohibition, fathered what would become the state’s most powerful political machine. Crump eventually controlled most of Tennessee along with the governor’s office and a United States senator. In eastern Tennessee local and regional machines developed, which, lacking the sophistication and power of a Crump, relied on intimidation and violence to control their constituents.

In 1936 the system descended upon McMinn County in the person of one Paul Cantrell, the Democratic candidate for sheriff. Cantrell, who came from a family of money and influence in nearby Etowah, tied his campaign closely to the popularity of the Roosevelt administration and rode FDR’s coattails to victory over his Republican opponent.

Fraud was suspected—to this day many Athens citizens firmly believe that ballot boxes were swapped—but there was no proof. Over the following months and years, however, those who questioned the election would see their suspicions vindicated.
Maybe the gun grabber's party is still sore that those on the right side took back their county from the tyrants of the leftist party. Especially as this was a major part of the real reason for the 2nd amendment.

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As the election approached, there were few overt signs of impending trouble, although to the citizens of McMinn County it was apparent that something had to happen: there was too much at stake on both sides. The Daily Post-Athenian was characteristically silent. The most significant news item appeared on election eve, July 31,1946, at the bottom of page one: VFW members in neighboring Blount County said that four hundred and fifty veterans were ready to respond to any need in McMinn County. Above this was a report that Tony Pierce had killed a muskrat in his front yard.
Hmmm, this sounds a little like today. The Demoncrats engaging in election fraud, and those on The Right getting more than a little peeved about it.

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Opinion differs on exactly how the challenge was issued. White says he was the one to call it out: “Would you damn bastards bring those damn ballot boxes out here or we are going to set siege against the jail and blow it down!” Moments later the night exploded in automatic weapons fire punctuated by shotgun blasts. “I fired the first shot,” White claimed, “then everybody started shooting from our side.” A deputy ran for the jail. “I shot him; he wheeled and fell inside of the jail.” Bullets ricocheted up and down White Street. “I shot a second man; his leg flew out from under him, and he crawled under a car.” The veterans bombarded the jail for hours, but Cantrell and his accomplices, secure behind the red-brick walls, refused to surrender. As the uncertain battle dragged past midnight, the GIs began to have some uneasy second thoughts. They knew that they had violated local, state, and federal laws that night, and if Cantrell was not routed before his rescuers arrived, they might spend the rest of their lives in prison. Rumors compounded their fears: “The National Guard is on the way!” “The state troopers are here!” “Birch Biggs and his gang are coming!” (Biggs ran Polk County more ruthlessly than Cantrell ran McMinn.)


If the veterans had known the truth, they would have been less apprehensive. George Woods had telephoned Biggs earlier that night for help. Biggs was not there, but his son, Broughton, took the call. His answer: “Do you think I’m crazy?” Woods then slipped out of town.

The veterans were eager to end the battle. Some of them made Molotov cocktails, others went to the county supply house for dynamite. The gasoline bombs proved ineffective, but at 2:30 A.M. the dynamite arrived. At about this time an ambulance pulled around to the north side of the jail. Assuming it was for the evacuation of the wounded, the veterans let it pass. Two men jumped in, but then, instead of returning to the hospital, the ambulance sped north out of town. The men were Paul Cantrell and Pat Mansfield.

At 2:48 A.M. the first dynamite was tossed toward the jail; it landed under Boe Dunn’s cruiser, and the explosion flipped the vehicle over on its top, leaving its wheels spinning. Three more bundles of dynamite were thrown almost simultaneously; one landed on the jail porch roof, another under Mansfield’s car, and the third struck the jail wall. The explosions rattled windows throughout the town; leaves fell from the trees, debris scattered for blocks, and the jailhouse porch jumped off its foundation. The deputies barricaded in the courthouse a block away rushed onto the balcony, eager to surrender. The jail’s defenders staggered from their ruined stronghold and handed the ballot boxes over to the veterans.

With the Cantrell forces conquered, ten years of suppressed rage exploded. The townspeople set upon the captured deputies and, but for the GIs, probably would have killed them all. Minus Wilburn, a particularly unpopular deputy, had his throat slashed; Biscuit Farris, Cantrell’s prison superintendent, had his jaw shattered by a bullet; and Windy Wise was kicked and beaten senseless. Joined by a number of their fellows, the GIs cleared the jail of the rioters and locked up their prisoners for the night.
Not the way the liberals always pretend the battle will end.
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Old 04-27-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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TRex2, good post.
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Old 04-27-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Few Americans seem to realize just how bad things could easily get.
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Few Americans seem to realize just how bad things could easily get.
They have had it too good, for too long.
A little bloodshed every now and then is a necessary thing,
for, without it, we become lethargic.
And today, our "civilization"is much like a dodo bird.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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They have had it too good, for too long.
A little bloodshed every now and then is a necessary thing,
for, without it, we become lethargic.
And today, our "civilization"is much like a dodo bird.
That just may also apply to people who are or were employed by governments too.
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