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Old 05-06-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Originally Posted by TRex2 View Post
Yep, I can see what we have here. No further need to attempt
intelligent conversation, since he has his talking points.
Time to drop him into the ignore bin ... plonk!

We get people from the "politics and controversies" forum stopping
by here to sew discord from time to time, and it is always humorous
when they begin by saying they support the 2nd amendment,
and then go on to show that they either have no understanding of it
at all, or show that they don't support it at all.
Politics is the purpose of this thread. Evidently you dismiss politics you dislike and you also dismiss those who don’t cave to your notions.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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I can tell you why the "gun control" crowd won't do that. They're afraid that photos of the same taken in Chicago will get leaked and then the question can be asked of the politicians there how gun control is working for them. It's a Democratic-run city, so it should make for a good discussion.

I also take umbrage at your dismissal of the misinterpretation of the term "assault rifle". That ship may have sailed for you and the ignorant left, but to those of us intelligent and informed enough to know the difference, that ship is still in port.
Oh, I doubt the bourgeois mothers who would be shocked by the sight of the kiddies killed in Connecticutt care about the Blacks and Mexicans murdered in Chicago, most of whom are gangsters killed by other gangsters. Using pistols. They are not the issue, like it or not, that’s the way it is. Law abiding people being murdered in batches, that’s the issue.

I’ve been a shooter for many years and know well what was the definition of assault rifle. That definition has changed. You guys think you’re making points when you argue the ARs on the street aren’t assault rifles but many just roll their eyes and think the argument irrelevant. Like pornography, people know an assault weapon when they see one.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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You people are so dense.... you simply dont get it. We don't care what you think. We don't care what you want. We don't care about your opinion of us. The only part of this we do care about is the fact that a bunch of blithering idiots are working to marginalize our right to live as we wish and have whatever we have the wherewithal to own.

Its always about some gun(one in particular) all you morons have decided nobody "needs" to have. Never about the SSRI's EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of these active shooters is on. Never about the utter lack of parenting that precedes these events. Never about the fact that they ALWAYS occur in areas where honest people are required to be unarmed, so the drug-addled coward feels safe going in there and shooting the place up. You have simply hopped on the bandwagon of dictators without a critical thought ever entering your pea-sized brains about where the wagon you just jumped on is going to end up. You want to stop the violence, leave the peaceful people like us alone and concentrate on the companies poisoning America for profit. Concentrate on the school leadership abdicating their responsibility to provide a secure environment for our children to learn in. Concentrate on why parents aren't raising sane and socially competent children. And most of all, ask who is telling you what to think, and why might they be doing that. This little bit of violence that happens every so often? It is nothing compared to what is lurking under the lid of that Pandora's box you numbskulls keep straining to open. Go mind your own business, leave peaceful people alone, and live your life. It will be best for all of us. What you are doing is the equivalent of reaching down a badger hole without a glove...
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Our friendly neighborhood troll finally exposed the pre coordinated liberal talking points we've all been expecting. It just took longer than most.


There are more guns than people in America. As long as bad and evil people exist they will do bad things. If there was a gun ban tomorrow, only law abiding citizens that no one needs to worry about would comply. Criminals and potential criminals will just disregard it. So where does that leave us? With heavily armed criminals who want to prey upon others who don't have an equal capabilities to defend themselves. No thanks. I owe it to my family, community and the constitution I took an oath for, to do the right thing and stand for the righteous.

I WILL NOT comply with any further restrictions.

I WILL NOT willingly put myself at a disadvantage if I ever need to defend myself, family or community.

I just want to be left alone to live my life in peace.


If you on the left continue to make demands and in 2020 God help us if you get your way and start ramming through half baked statist legislation....let's just get it over with already no sense dragging it out. Its like when a marriage is failing at some point you reach irreconcilable differences.
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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I've never considered "Dick's" or any other big box sporting goods store a place to buy supplies.
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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It is a business and they have the right to not sell whatever they don't want to sell. I don't own a firearm, I support the basic tenets of the 2nd amendment and I feel Dick's is making a gutsy move.

Unless you are a member of the military or a swat team, you don't need an assault rifle.
To address the bolded part, you probably don't know much about AR15's. I own one, along with many other rifles and pistols. The AR15 doesn't fire any faster than a pistol. It holds more rounds in the magazine, but I have a 9mm that holds 19+1, so only 10 less than my AR.

Also, I may need it one day. If something happened and people become desperate, things can change quickly and life as we know it will change overnight. If people are starving or fearing their own life, they can and will resort to things you don't think of as possible right now. I lived through Katrina and it's aftermath, which in the big picture, wasn't an event like what could be possible in this country, but it only took that for people to do things they wouldn't normally do and for reasons such as this, I want to own a rifle that can hold more rounds and easy to aim and fire.

I suggest you read the book One Second After. It may change your thinking.
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:14 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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When a big, dumb retailer like Dick's loudly proclaims its high moral decision to stop selling the AR, many of their core customers will reciprocate by taking all of their business elsewhere. No more visits to Dick's for pistols, hunting rifles, ammo, cleaning kits, sights, range finders, etc. No more canoes and camo pants and archery kits. If what I'm hearing on the social networks is accurate, Dick's is going to lose a lot of business.

I predict that when the dust settles, in a year or two, they'll quietly find a way to reinstate sales to sub-21 customers (if you bring your parents, or bring their signed permission), and reinstate sales of AR-15 (we'll special order it for you), this type of thing.

At the end of the day, they're a publicly traded business. Looney liberals in control of pension funds like New York's are boycotting gun sellers and so on, but sooner or later people will decide that they don't want to sacrifice their retirement for some political reason.

And as a publicly traded company, Dick's has to keep its investors happy. If profits are way down because of this misguided anti-gun policy that has alienated their core customers, then they'll find a way to weasel back into our good graces.
Dicks is a business that can choose what it sells and doesn't sell for whatever reason it wants within the confines of the law. Some people are going to be angry with the decision and chose to pull away from shopping there, some people are going to applaud the decision and become new shoppers there, some people won't know what they chose to change in their sales lineup, and some people won't care one way or another. The customers in rural Alabama are likely going to have a different take on this than the customers in suburban Boston.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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Dicks is a business that can choose what it sells and doesn't sell for whatever reason it wants within the confines of the law. Some people are going to be angry with the decision and chose to pull away from shopping there, some people are going to applaud the decision and become new shoppers there, some people won't know what they chose to change in their sales lineup, and some people won't care one way or another. The customers in rural Alabama are likely going to have a different take on this than the customers in suburban Boston.
LOL, I'm a customer in suburban Boston and they won't be getting much more of my business.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Retired in Malibu/La Quinta/Flagstaff
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Oh, I doubt the bourgeois mothers who would be shocked by the sight of the kiddies killed in Connecticutt care about the Blacks and Mexicans murdered in Chicago, most of whom are gangsters killed by other gangsters. Using pistols. They are not the issue, like it or not, that’s the way it is. Law abiding people being murdered in batches, that’s the issue.

I’ve been a shooter for many years and know well what was the definition of assault rifle. That definition has changed. You guys think you’re making points when you argue the ARs on the street aren’t assault rifles but many just roll their eyes and think the argument irrelevant. Like pornography, people know an assault weapon when they see one.
The definition of an assault rifle hasn't changed. Don't know where you gleaned that information. If it has, what makes a rifle an assault rifle? Please explain. Three years as an Army Ranger, which included two combat tours of Viet Nam, introduced me to what an assault rifle is. I didn't know that it had morphed to an obsolete military rifle.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:40 AM
 
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Neither of you can even DEFINE "assault rifle". I know that, because there IS no such definition. You're just parroting what you hear on TV. Turn the TV off, and learn what you're talking about.

It's nothing but a black rifle...same as any other rifle, pretty much. If you don't like black, that's your problem. Its color doesn't make the gun do anything differently. One trigger pull, one shot, just like any other gun. It doesn't "spray bullets". And the AR-15 usually shoots .223 / 5.56, which is nothing but a varmint round.

Sheesh people, is this how ignorant this country is becoming?? Where's your PRIDE in your intelligence??
Who really gives a flying fruit if there is a well-defined meaning of "assault rifle"? If you want to take the nerd approach on this, go ahead. This is like arguing about different memory chips in computers that only have very slight differences between them.

The fact there is no formal, official legal definition of assault rifle is unimportant. It is generally accepted that an assault rifle is a weapon that puts out a high rate of fire and can kill a lot of people in a very short time as has been evidenced in the many mass shootings in this country over the years.

Why don't you ask the survivors of these many mass shootings that were shot with an AR-15 or similar weapon and ask them if they feel if they were "assaulted" or not. Let me pump a few rounds in your knee, and let's see how you describe it then.

And as far as what I know or don't know, I will say I am qualified enough to understand what an AR-15 is and what it can do considering I carried an M16A1 or M16A2 for several years and qualified with it multiple times as an Infantry soldier in the Army, MOS 11C34. The AR-15 is basically an M16 on semi-automatic and I know how many rounds it can put out in a matter of seconds and minutes.

The fact of the matter is, there are way too many unstable people in this country who want to create hell with these weapons and they shouldn't get into their hands.

If you can't see that for what it is, that is your problem.
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