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In the face of natural or terrorist crisis, they can declare martial law nationwide, and suspend all rights of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Military law will rule indefinitely, under which you have no rights.
If they want your gold, you will give it up (no receipt, no return, it's called eminent domain, and yes it also applies to personal property) or your home wil be searched. Guaranteed. If you give it up willingly, you will just be poor. If you lie and they find it anyway, you go to the prison camp. Also, guaranteed. This scenario is called SHTF, and nobody wants to see it... which is why I live 150 miles away from the city.
The barter system will return after people give up their guns and gold. Then, only the criminals will have guns and gold. Ain't gun control grand! If you have no product or service to barter with, you will be SOL.
If you want to trade on the Black Market -- drugs, sex slaves, illegal weapons and stolen vehicles are recognized profit centers and markets of choice.
But gold will command so much more money and is much more difficult to trace than drugs since there is no thing as a gold sniffing dog .
In the face of natural or terrorist crisis, they can declare martial law nationwide, and suspend all rights of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Military law will rule indefinitely, under which you have no rights.
If they want your gold, you will give it up (no receipt, no return, it's called eminent domain, and yes it also applies to personal property) or your home wil be searched. Guaranteed. If you give it up willingly, you will just be poor. If you lie and they find it anyway, you go to the prison camp. Also, guaranteed. This scenario is called SHTF, and nobody wants to see it... which is why I live 150 miles away from the city.
The barter system will return after people give up their guns and gold. Then, only the criminals will have guns and gold. Ain't gun control grand! If you have no product or service to barter with, you will be SOL.
I would like to know how the government plans on getting my secured gold at the perth mint half a world away as well as my physical gold.
Thoughts of gestapo gold seizing police are improable at best, as the government has no real money to hire teams of people. Worst case is they employ a Stasi like role with neighbor informants, driving the black market even deeper underground and making the dollar even more worthless.
Gold is a metal and easily hidden among other metals, as well as trivial to melt down and recast. The war on drugs with massive agencies is a supreme failure, and these people even have the luxury of knowing that drugs have a scent and are more easily identified.
Owning commodities such as agriculture is just as risky or even more risky than gold. The State can claim that suffering and hungry Americans deserve the food you grow and demand you give up free of charge a sizable portion of your harvest. Much harder to hide a vegetable/livestock producing farm from the government than it is to hide a compact and easily hidden bounty of metal. Newly appointed local "Comrade Commissars" and informants paid to rat you out can see to it that you do not capitalize on your surplus.
I think I'll keep my self sustaining garden producing just enough (but not too much) food and my easily hidden gold/silver
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Dude, what's wrong with a little black market action? Heck, our own constitution recognizes gold and silver as legal tender. I have no regard for laws I see as fascist/authoritarian. The feds can come and get me right now. Uncle Sam, I know you are out there watching. I'm well armed, so you're going to need at least a dozen of the fascist ATF/FBI/IRS agents.
I would like to know how the government plans on getting my secured gold at the perth mint half a world away as well as my physical gold.
Thoughts of gestapo gold seizing police are improable at best, as the government has no real money to hire teams of people. Worst case is they employ a Stasi like role with neighbor informants, driving the black market even deeper underground and making the dollar even more worthless.
"gestapo gold seizing police" Is rather harsh.
I was thinking of FDR-like policies.
When it has happened to us before, you can't act like it is impossible.
They did it before, but I wonder how they can get at overseas gold.
Through their old pals and spawn, the IMF and the World Bank. SHouldn't be too hard to accomplish such a coup, given we are moving towards global government faster than mach 3.
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When it has happened to us before, you can't act like it is impossible.
FDR policies are wildly different than today. Gold was set to a fixed price and stayed there, but not because the gov't wanted it that way. Cash was precious in the depression. That scenario will likely not repeat itself since the printed virtual dollars can and will be spent by foreigners and wash back ashore to America. Paper currency will be trash, swept in the street and wads of it played with by children as toys. People will hoard gold and ignore government orders to round it up. Like I mentioned before, the difference between gold and physical commdities such as oil and agriculture is that gold is very easy to hide and protect, while the government can much more readily steal your golden goose (land) for the general good of the suffering citizens. You cannot hide a private oil field or farm, but you can VERY easily hide gold.
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