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Tyson Foods just reported an 86% jump in their quarterly profits due to the rise in meat costs...86%.
That's not "a bit" in my book.
Tyson Foods profit surges on higher meat prices - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110204/bs_nm/us_tysonfoods - broken link)
Tyson Foods Inc's quarterly profit surged 86 percent and it gave a better-than-expected 2011 forecast as prices for pork and beef jump, sending its shares up 5.3 percent.
yup. Right there is a first sign of apocalypse. better start building a bunker and learn about sustainable living...
food in USA is still way cheaper than anywhere else in the world. For all I care this could be just another speculation..
Lawyer I am tryin to be civil, but if you don't know Obama took a small loan for 13 trillion bucks early on after he was was elected I really don't don't what to say. It was just on the news every day for months.
If you think a penny still buys 2 squirrels in the candy store you will discover you are wrong.
If you don't know what a squirrel is in a candy store you never even held a real dollar in your hand once yet.
Don't worry about that. Not very many people living have held a real dollar yet, and most never will.
The thing to heed is you want to stock up on as many dollars as you can, since when the collapse comes you will need something to wipe yer butt.
If the feds can't get another loand by March 31st, somethings in Govt will be forced to shut down. I don't worry about that myself since I have seen it happen.
The feds will cut leo type service, fire service, other emergency related service, but all the bean counters are quite safe.
I did say China holds the 3rd highest account too, jus' sayin'
Then there is other little hints, like less tuna fish in a can, less meat in tomatoe sauces, smaller packages of items, ice cream is one with the same high price.
Some rather than increase the price hold the price but reduce the content.
There are many items now where this has taken place.
Nothing is going to happen. You're just wasting your time
You're a day late and a dollar short--something already has happened, if you hadn't noticed. And it will continue to happen unless something worse usurps what's already bad. You can sit in your ivory tower for as long as it retains its structural integrity. It is your right. Just remember that sooner or later even the wealthy will feel the sting of an economic/social trend.
Frugality, self-sufficiency, and preparedness are not equivalent to overreaction. I want to learn to live as my great-grandparents did. They were not radicals or nut-jobs. There was nothing wrong with the way they lived. It was harder. So what? It was also cheaper and less collectively dependent. That's good in my book. Sadly, it's taken me most of my life to realize that the easy way is not always the best or safest way. I'm systematically withdrawing from the collective. There's nothing nutty or radical about it--it's simply a lifestyle choice that I am slowly and deliberately embracing. I don't know why "the masses" feel so threatened by this sort of thing. Are they "selfsufficiophobic," or what? Why should they care? Misery loves company, I guess.
When a society feels that having a degree of self-reliance and being prepared for a rainy day is "wasting time," you know damn well something bad is just around the corner. You tell me what happens when a spoiled rotten child suddenly doesn't get his/her way any more. We can't remain spoiled forever.
This forum is entitled "Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness"; if you believe in neither, why are you here? Do you always hang around people with whom you have nothing in common?
yup. Right there is a first sign of apocalypse. better start building a bunker and learn about sustainable living...
food in USA is still way cheaper than anywhere else in the world. For all I care this could be just another speculation..
Well if you read the Ag reports you'll see that it's actually a shortage of pigs.
And if you really don't care about any of this why are you in this forum ?
I agree Chris. So far in my life. my personal life my tiny world of economic crashed many times.
The first hum dinger was in 87 when my back was crushed on the job. That law on pre-existing conditions has treated me fairly harsh ever since. No one has hired me since. Long ago I learned to not put that on any application, which I did by the law. I may as well have walked around with a gun to my head.
I was told by the courts to create a job. I did and took living history to the public schools. That ended the day of Columbine, I had a class for that very thing that same day. That was my last day to do that.
I created another job making Trade Silver from real silver. That ended when silver went to 18 dollars a troy ounce, and silver now is 31 dollars an ounce so i won't likey being doing that again, since not that many people will buy at what would have to be new prices.
I sure feel the crunch on a dollar. Just this week I bought 30 gallons of gasoline. Only a fool would see gasoline as being reasonably priced.
The fee's a tax to register all my old junk is very high compared to what my old junk used to be.
I assume who ever recieves the bennies from these fee's is living high off the hog, and will for so long as a dollar can buy 1 cents worth of silver. That is what the dollar today is worth, just 1 cents worth of silver.
I began to grow foods many years ago as a hobby, but now I grow these same foods with the idea I will still be eatting from last harvest a good long while past the coming harvest and I don't pay a cent to do that.
For the doing of that many people tell me I am un-educated, but I insist to grow well you do have to be rather smart. Most plants are a little fussy or we would call them weeds.
And then since I can and do start fire with 2 sticks and have even been paid to teach lessons, I would just say my education is in non-typical things, mostly long forgotten.
I can still take a worn out junk hand file and create a knife, worth 100 bucks as a starting figure.
The total cost to me is brass brazing rods I use for rivets, if I don't just use steel nails. Usually worn out files come to me for free, and the tiger stripe maple I use for grips is just from the fire wood.
If it all goes to Hell in a Hand basket I don't see me getting very cold, tired or hungery no matter what.
I want to live like my great grandparents did too. In a massive Queen Anne mansion on the best street in Galveston with a cook, nanny, two housekeepers and a driver.
You're a day late and a dollar short--something already has happened, if you haven't noticed. And it will continue to happen unless something worse usurps what's already bad. You can sit in your ivory tower for as long as it retains its structural integrity. It is your right. Just remember that even the wealthy felt the collapse of the Roman Empire at some point. Nothing happened there either, right?
Frugality, self-sufficiency, and preparedness is not equivalent to overreaction. I want to learn to live as my great-grandparents did. They were not radicals or nut-jobs. There was nothing wrong with the way they lived. It was harder. So what? It was also cheaper and less collectively dependent. That's good in my book. Sadly, it's taken me most of my life to realize that the easy way is not always the best or safest way.
When a society feels that having a degree of self-reliance and being prepared for a rainy day is "wasting time," you know damn well something bad is just around the corner. You tell me what happens when a spoiled rotten child suddenly doesn't get his/her way any more. We can't remain spoiled forever.
This forum is titled "Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness"; if you believe in neither, why are you here? Do you always hang around people with whom you have nothing in common?
Good post. Nothing I can quarrel with. But let me tell you what irritates me about some of the true believers here (not you, whom I consider rational). It's when people say with smug certitude something like this: "Well, since the collapse is less than a year off now, what is your plan for not starving to death?" That sounds too much like a religious tenet - this absolute certainty that the poster knows the future, and that the particular future is going to be a total collapse. Of course, as you point out, how can we know it's all b.s., as there are some rather troubling signs? So the smug certitude on the other side is irritating too. But since so many past predictions of disaster (and rather recent ones, too) have turned out to be baseless, a little bit of skepticism is not out of order. Another thing I find irritating, to put it mildly, is people bringing in the Mayan calendar to indicate a hitting-the-fan scenario is coming soon. I find that so baseless that I don't know how to rebut it properly; I just have no common language or common conceptual framework with such people. We may as well be asked to believe in the tooth fairy.
Well if you read the Ag reports you'll see that it's actually a shortage of pigs.
And if you really don't care about any of this why are you in this forum ?
LOL he reminds me of a lawyer I met on Rt 50, way out in no where Nevada. That lawyer had a flat tire on his BMW motorcycle and thar's wuz nuthin he could do about it. He was way out of cell phone range.
The only good thing about his situation was the skeeters were not familar enough with man, to know he was a meal.
I fixed him up for Free, but after I did he made me wish I had charged $2,500.00 for services rendered.
I doubt I will do that again.
Escort Rider, I don't do the tooth fairy. I have Peter Pan Syndrome so I do Tinkerbell
Lawyer I am tryin to be civil, but if you don't know Obama took a small loan for 13 trillion bucks early on after he was was elected I really don't don't what to say. It was just on the news every day for months.
huh 13 trillion loan? you're talking about the BUDGET which spans over the next 10 YEARS. That's about a trillion a year or slightly less than during the bush administration. Most of that deficit comes from previous "entitlement" programs/war - portions of budget which you're now allowed to touch.
I'm not sure how this is all obama's fault?
baby boomers will die off and by the time my generation reaches 65, i'm sure some changes will be made to social security/medicare so that it is not operating at a loss. Right now we just have to take that loss because there is nothing we can do but be more optimistic about the future.
It will be your generation to pay the never ending interest on that loan, a loan that should never have taken place and is fraught with scams and sceemings, pretending the dollar has a value it does not and hasn't have since 1933.
I'll be dead, and won't have that problem to worry about. My son will, and his son not yet 2 will, but i won't.
Really siottng next to me is a 10 ounce bag of tater chips and the price tag says $3.99. Do you really think that bad of chips is worth 1 gallon of diesel fuel?
Do you know that before you can refine gasoline, K-1 thru diesel fuel come first? That the economic chain is upside down?
Maybe you do. lawyers tend to chase a buck for no other reason than the buck is religion to lawyers and law makers.
The thing there is not everyone has the same religion of the God Almighty Dollar. It's one thing to use the tool called cash for getting some things, but it really isn't what life is about.
Man is the only creature alive silly enough to worry about them. And God only knows how the IRS whines at me for more, not capable of understand I don't always work got the power of a buck.
I did once but then the system in it's all knowingness and leagleese removed that choice from me with a work related back injury and that pre-existing clause.
I am living proof you can survive, I won't say live well, but I could maybe, that dollars don't have mean much and by the Govt standards are getting to be worth less each day.
I don't bother to keep much money in a bank anymore. For one there is no interest to be had doing that, and for 2 any Govt fool can seize an account on a whim.
I got a Nam Vet buddy whos account was seized because his name was too similar to another schumks name. My buddy was never married ever, and the courts have his money locked up for child support laws.
Let me tell you what will happen. The gov will devalue the dollar and end up calling it worthless.
The next move the Govt makes will be a great deal on vera chip. You should be able to get it all figured out now by your self.
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