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People just allowing "whatever" to happen in the US is a bigger problem than anything else. A neutered, disinterested, detached, aimless population that tolerates anything, especially the exponential rise in corruption and rule by the few.
"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves."
"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves."
That is true. I did solve a mystery this morning, though.
Normally, a falling copper price, compared to the demand for diesel means that US manufacturing, and our economy is doing well but the rest of the world is going to hell in a handbasket. But a low interest rate on 10yr bonds (less than 3%, or less than the GDP growth rate) is a warning sign of impending recession.
Right now, we have both. Hmmmm.
Well, the underlying economics is that a low interest rate on the 10yr treasury bond means that a lot of money is going towards buying them, instead of being invested in business and manufacturing. But we know a lot of money is currently being invested in business and manufacturing.
There was a few hundred million dollars a month extra money in the system, that I couldn't account for.
In addition, a low price on gold (with no sudden rise or fall) means that our economic outlook is good, and a low price on silver means that we are currently politically stable.
More Hmmmmm.
The answer hit me this morning. The money pouring into our Treasury Bonds is from outside the country. It is from other nations that are panicking about our sanctions and tariffs, because their economies are tanking (see what I said about copper, above), and they have decided the safest place to keep their money until the "trade war" abates is in our T-Bonds.
Mystery solved. We are currently winning.
(No guarantees about the future, though, as long as the other guy has nukes and ICBM's)
JFK went on the radio and advised people to build backyard bomb shelters. [Fear of nuclear war grew throughout the 1950s]
Prepping also got a giant boost when we went off the gold standard in 1969. [1933 AD, House Joint Resolution 192, and the criminalization of the possession of gold by 'free' citizens.]
The 2008 meltdown kicked prepping into high gear. [Long before, and after, too]
Living off of debt, up to 21 trillion, has turbocharged prepping. [Congress is borrowing more than it pays in debt service, paying old investors with new investor funds. Sound familiar?]
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Prepping? Sure - great idea. Except for the fact that we [you] do not know what to prepare for and how long to prepare for. Preparing for almost everything is very expensive [to the best of YOUR knowledge]. Plus a lot of items have limited shelf lives [avoid] and take a lot of space.
Preppers are also some of the biggest "know-it-alls" around. [Competence breeds confidence.] Watch any number of youtube prepping videos. Almost all of them know exactly what you should do. Hmmmph!
Failure to plan is planning to fail. Doing something, even if not totally correct, is better than doing nothing.
Personally, I would construct an autonomous, self reliant, super insulated, disaster resistant domicile, near to a navigable waterway and or railroad right of way. Preferably near to hydropower or other sustainable power resource. For the express purpose of securing person and property from nature's (and men's) wrath, and reducing the cost for maintaining prosperity (production of surplus goods and services).
If/when the 'dollar bill' collapses, so will trade, until a new standard is acceptable, and trade resumes. Thus stockpiling 24 months of food, plus the capacity to grow more is vital.
A man with one year supply of money will not outlive a man with a one year supply of food.
A man with a two year supply of food is master, when the others run out of both.
CACHE US IF YOU CAN
+++A compact paleo pantry plus +++
[] Beans, grains => Sprouts expand stock by up to 8x
[] Wheat berries => whole grain flour (milled as needed to prevent spoilage)
[] Brown Rice => GABA rice (sprouted)
[] Meat => Pemmican, sausage, jerky, smoked, corned, brined, summer sausage
[] Fermented, pickled, salt fermented => cabbage, vegetables, fruits
[] Sugar, fruit, wheat => Fruit cake
[] Dehydrated vegetables, fruits
[] Fats (lard, tallow, schmaltz, etc)
[] Salt, herbs, spices
[] Baker's yeast
Nine foods that last forever https://www.stilltasty.com/articles/view/35
_ Honey _ Rice _ Sugar _ Hard liquor _ Maple syrup _ Pure vanilla extract _ Distilled white vinegar _ Cornstarch _ Salt _
INTEX 32 x 16 pool
Volume : 17235 gallons
Fish capacity : 1724 lbs (1lb/10 gal)
Grow Bed : 1723.51 sq ft (0.04 acres)
4' wide x 430 linear feet of planters
(41.52' x 41.52')
[*Kratky suggests using insect mesh to reduce mosquito infestation of hydroponic trays. Roots can get through, but skeeters can't.]
The US Dept. Of Agriculture estimates that the average person in the United States consumes:
0.534 lbs meat/day (195 pounds/year)
1.625 lbs dairy products/day (593 pounds/year)
0.202 lbs fats and oils/day (74 pounds/year)
0.767 lbs fruits/day (280 pounds/year),
0.552 lbs processed vegetables/day (201.7 pounds/year)
0.621 lbs processed vegetables/day (226.6 pounds/year)
0.547 lbs grains/day (200 pounds/year)
0.417 lbs sugars/day (152.4 pounds/year)
------------
5.265 lbs. of food per day (1,922.7 pounds/year)
Adjust to your preferences.
Hope that helps.
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Failure to plan is planning to fail. Doing something, even if not totally correct, is better than doing nothing.
Personally, I would construct an autonomous, self reliant, super insulated, disaster resistant domicile, near to a navigable waterway and or railroad right of way. Preferably near to hydropower or other sustainable power resource. For the express purpose of securing person and property from nature's (and men's) wrath, and reducing the cost for maintaining prosperity (production of surplus goods and services).
If/when the 'dollar bill' collapses, so will trade, until a new standard is acceptable, and trade resumes. Thus stockpiling 24 months of food, plus the capacity to grow more is vital.
A man with one year supply of money will not outlive a man with a one year supply of food.
A man with a two year supply of food is master, when the others run out of both.
CACHE US IF YOU CAN
+++A compact paleo pantry plus +++
[] Beans, grains => Sprouts expand stock by up to 8x
[] Wheat berries => whole grain flour (milled as needed to prevent spoilage)
[] Brown Rice => GABA rice (sprouted)
[] Meat => Pemmican, sausage, jerky, smoked, corned, brined, summer sausage
[] Fermented, pickled, salt fermented => cabbage, vegetables, fruits
[] Sugar, fruit, wheat => Fruit cake
[] Dehydrated vegetables, fruits
[] Fats (lard, tallow, schmaltz, etc)
[] Salt, herbs, spices
[] Baker's yeast
Nine foods that last forever https://www.stilltasty.com/articles/view/35
_ Honey _ Rice _ Sugar _ Hard liquor _ Maple syrup _ Pure vanilla extract _ Distilled white vinegar _ Cornstarch _ Salt _
INTEX 32 x 16 pool
Volume : 17235 gallons
Fish capacity : 1724 lbs (1lb/10 gal)
Grow Bed : 1723.51 sq ft (0.04 acres)
4' wide x 430 linear feet of planters
(41.52' x 41.52')
[*Kratky suggests using insect mesh to reduce mosquito infestation of hydroponic trays. Roots can get through, but skeeters can't.]
The US Dept. Of Agriculture estimates that the average person in the United States consumes:
0.534 lbs meat/day (195 pounds/year)
1.625 lbs dairy products/day (593 pounds/year)
0.202 lbs fats and oils/day (74 pounds/year)
0.767 lbs fruits/day (280 pounds/year),
0.552 lbs processed vegetables/day (201.7 pounds/year)
0.621 lbs processed vegetables/day (226.6 pounds/year)
0.547 lbs grains/day (200 pounds/year)
0.417 lbs sugars/day (152.4 pounds/year)
------------
5.265 lbs. of food per day (1,922.7 pounds/year)
Adjust to your preferences.
Hope that helps.
I have to say that this posting is excellent.
In fact, it is the best posting I have ever seen from you.
Your response to ColoGuy was a waste of red electrons, however.
Your confidence breeds conceit into your average posting.
"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves."
A great quote.
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Originally Posted by TRex2
I have to say that this posting is excellent.
In fact, it is the best posting I have ever seen from you.
Your response to ColoGuy was a waste of red electrons, however.
Your confidence breeds conceit into your average posting.
His posts on libertarianism, government, history, and law (often in other sub-forums) are, on the whole, the best I've seen on CD forums--and his understanding of constitutional law, particularly, has always impressed me.
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His posts on libertarianism, government, history, and law (often in other sub-forums) are, on the whole, the best I've seen on CD forums--and his understanding of constitutional law, particularly, has always impressed me.
I don't read his posts on politics, because that isn't why I come here, so maybe he shines over there. But on Prepping, he is mostly a one trick pony, so I eventually put him on ignore, and only read his stuff from time to time. This post was quite different than what I have seen from him in the past, and very good.
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Originally Posted by turf3
Hmmm...
Post - the great collapse could be near... 9 years ago.
Of course, in geological terms, it's true. In cosmological terms, it's already here. In theological terms - well, better not go there.
No, not 9 years ago.
No. Not in geological terms.
Don't know what you are talking about, with a collapse of Cosmopolitan magazine
Theological ? Off topic for here, but dear to my heart,
and let's just say: you ain't seen nothing yet.
Not even the foreshadow of disaster.
Post - the great collapse could be near... 9 years ago.
Of course, in geological terms, it's true. In cosmological terms, it's already here. In theological terms - well, better not go there.
That's the thing about the future... none of us know the outcome before the fact. Things might blow up tomorrow. Things might blow up after we are all dead. The way you react to that uncertainty depends on how much of a gambler you are.
If you chose to ignore the possibility, in the bargain, you condemn yourself to 100% dependency and quite likely, a lot of misery should you lose your bet.
If you chose to address the possibility, you are not out anything if you lose your bet, other than perhaps some time and money that you would have wasted on the trivial foolishness of our day and age, anyway.
That's the thing about the future... none of us know the outcome before the fact. Things might blow up tomorrow. Things might blow up after we are all dead. The way you react to that uncertainty depends on how much of a gambler you are.
If you chose to ignore the possibility, in the bargain, you condemn yourself to 100% dependency and quite likely, a lot of misery should you lose your bet.
If you chose to address the possibility, you are not out anything if you lose your bet, other than perhaps some time and money that you would have wasted on the trivial foolishness of our day and age, anyway.
The best comparison I can make is to look at history.
We don't know where we're going but we can look at things that have happened and try to extrapolate and project that information to be a guess on where things are going. After all human nature hasn't changed that much.
History is full of fallen civilizations, failed countries and governments, significant major natural disasters, climate changes and pandemics.
Sure hind sight is always 20/20 and a polish person living in Warsaw in 1935 probably would have made different decisions given a second chance.
In 1985 you probably could have made a lot of money on friendly bets with a russian/Soviet friend of how much longer the Soviet union will exist as a co-super power.
Maybe in 20 years from now China will be the lone super power? 20 years from now They will say all the signs were there why didn't people notice what was going to happen?
Typically in history there are VERY FEW examples where the world's dominant country/society was replaced by another that WAS NOT the result of major warfare. The types of wars where 10-50% of a civilization is destroyed. Total warfare.
Many previous generations have faced major challenges. We have grown soft and complacent here as we have not recently. We haven't had to deal with total warfare, pandemics, major natural phemenonem in generations. It will cycle back again Its just how it goes.
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