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Old 10-30-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: New Mexico via Ohio via Indiana
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Much of it is the crappy treatment and pay of entry-level employees (and no, offering lots of overtime to someone making dirt does not equal good pay). The other more practical part of it is having to hike 500 miles just to get a quart of motor oil or anything that's in the back of the store.
Here's the other thing-----yeah, I'll say it: It's DEPRESSING. It's like being in a 1970's Woolworths, without the cool lunch counters. Some even sell parakeets to make it REALLY like Woolworths. People screaming at their kids, people standing in line like they're miserable, checkout clerks looking half dead like they work in a Soviet salt mine. Everyone usually looks broke or almost broke. Lots of arm tats on the women customers. It's like spending Christmas at cousin Eddie's trailer.
It serves a role in today's America however, and as I live out in the sticks, when you need something it's there. I've gone in, but usually only at gunpoint or because it's late and everything else is closed.
Trying to shop online with free shipping from other places more, to avoid a soul-destroying afternoon in you-know-where. It's going well.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that you're too young to remember, but for a while, Walmart sold exclusively "Made in USA" products. The reason they started selling imported goods again? Simple - their customers didn't want to pay more for US made goods.

Don't blame the store for giving its customers what they want. That's their job.
Not always the case. My wife used to work for a company in Massachusetts and Wal-Mart was the biggest buyer of their company products (about 1/3 of their total overall sales were to Wal-Mart.)

Wal-Mart basically told them around 10-11 years ago that instead of shipping their items from Massachusetts to somewhere in the US, all of their goods would first need to go through Guangzhou in China. So, they would either need to ship their items from their factory in Massachusetts to China, where they would then be shipped back to the US, or else they would need to find a manufacturer in China.

Now, there was no difference between the cost to manufacture the product in Massachusetts, as their factory was pretty automated and efficient, vs in China, where the products would be assembled in factories that were much less efficient and clean and without much automation. Zero difference in cost.

However, the company could not afford to ship their items from Massachusetts to China, for shipment back to the US. Their choices were get rid of the US manufacturing and save the jobs of management, sales, marketing and operations, or else go out of business completely. So, they laid off their 400 or so factory workers (it may have been more than that?) and started manufacturing the same products in China.

The company eventually moved from Massachusetts (where they had been for over 100 years) to Tennessee.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Currently I'm hating on Walmart for participating in this anti-NFC crap so that they can implement CurrentC only.

CurrentC Hacked - Business Insider
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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I'm not a huge fan of Wal-Mart, but I do go there on occasion. The stores often seem to be inconsistently stocked - the one hair gel product I get for myself is only on the shelves of my local WM a few times a year. (Target and the local grocery stores don't carry that line). So, I need to order it at Amazon most of the time. And, it also seems like it's difficult to squeeze down aisles when somebody already has a shopping cart in one.

I do think the quality of a lot of their food items is not as good as your typical Big Box Grocery store - not sure why, but even if I buy cereal, bagels or bread at Wal-Mart, it doesn't seem quite as fresh as it is as my local grocery store. Heck, even the same brand of chewing gum seems to somehow be a bit drier/more crumbly and less tasty than if I bought at my CVS or grocery store. Maybe Wal-Mart uses different methods of shipping and/or storage? The same thing with fruits - the blueberries always seem to be a bit less blue there, the bananas don't stay yellow quite as long, etc.

I'm not a big fan of Target, either, but their stores do seem to be noticeably cleaner, better lit and better organized.
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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I don't shop at Walmart. I've heard enough about their labor practices to feel that the low prices I can get there come at the expense of poorly treated employees. I also think their corporate policy is free-loading on the American public by having such a high percentage of workers who need to be on government aid. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford to shop other places, so I do.
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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The issue with Walmart is multifold, and not solely to blame on Walmart itself.

Walmart and Kmart and the Old Woolworth Stores all used the same modeling. Previously, they all bought from Japan.
When China opened its doors wide, Walmart beat the others at the game, they went their sewed up contract, but walmart began to add another element to the game. They would threaten producers and suppliers, with contract cancellation if it gave the same cut rate deals to any competetors or other parties. In return Walmart agreed to buy large volumes.
Next, they went from the standard big box to the Super Sized stores. Which targeted every independent business in a 20 mile or more radius. Then in later years, with the Supersizied stores they targeted the groceriers in the region.

They also made encroaching threats to force their presence in places they were not wanted.

American product producers and manufactuers could not get their products on Walmart Store shelves. They bulldozed over small town politicians who were not savvy enough to know the art of negotation, so Walmart became skilled at "surrounding small metro's with 150-400K+ populations.

It promised thing it had no intent to deliver, such as 'open registers", "functional wages and good working conditions". but time proved different, Walmart had gender bias in its pay system, it abused employees rights and work rules" and failed to provide employees with a respectful and function benefit program. It offered employees "profit sharing", but to avert paying the Profit Share, it used the profit to further expand, so there was less profit on the books to share with employees.

The list can go on and on and on. The visibility of devastated communities, devastated small business is and will continue to be seen where ever Walmart builds.

Products are generally "non Repairable", thus requiring one to repurchase, the list of challenges posed is many, and among many individuals, there can be many stories.

What you won't find is Walmart in any area where people in the $140K a year and upwards communities. These communities will not allow it anywhere close to where they live.

Walmart killed many cities business sector, almost as many small cities were devastated by Walmart as there were cities devastated by the creation of the Freeway system in the 1950's and 1960's when traffic was diverted around and away from the cities of which traffice use to flow through.
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Old 10-30-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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I don't hate WalMart. I shop there on occasion. The parking lot is always crowded so obviously not everyone hates WalMart.

I wouldn't feel comfortable booking surgery at WalMart, but I'm okay with buying a jug of laundry detergent or an 11 oz. (nobody sells a pound) bag of coffee there. Shampoo and clothespins I can get at the dollar store, but Charmin is Charmin, wherever you buy it. Am I right?

Build a better mousetrap - and Sam Walton did. I don't get my knickers in a knot over how much money his empire is worth, any more than I care about the net worth of Microsoft, or Apple, or amazon. My own net worth is my primary concern and if I can get something at a better price, that I know is worth the cost (see, that's the important thing - comparison shopping) I'm in.

Shop there, don't shop there, I'm sure it won't matter.
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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Default Poor service

I had an experience where the checker went through the entire check-out process and never said one word to me. When it was time to tell me what I owed, she turned the sign (?) with the total around to face me.

Another time, an employee stocking who was trying to talk to a coworker on an aisle a couple of rows over walked directly in front of me without saying excuse me or waiting 5 seconds until I passed by. I actually had to stop pushing my cart to allow her to pass in front of me and without running into her. I know she was aware I was there because she looked up at me.
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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I had an experience where the checker went through the entire check-out process and never said one word to me. When it was time to tell me what I owed, she turned the sign (?) with the total around to face me.

Another time, an employee stocking who was trying to talk to a coworker on an aisle a couple of rows over walked directly in front of me without saying excuse me or waiting 5 seconds until I passed by. I actually had to stop pushing my cart to allow her to pass in front of me and without running into her. I know she was aware I was there because she looked up at me.
This happened to me just yesterday, in a supermarket I frequent almost weekly, and has been an ongoing occurrence - both at WalMart AND two supermarkets, one a locally-owned chain and one an interstate chain.

I have complained to Customer Service in the two local stores, and always refuse the offer of "discount coupons" to compensate for the lack of proper employee training. While WalMart may have a lock on many things, discourteous employees are not among 'em. Civility has gone the way of the Do-Do.
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Old 10-30-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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I love Walmart. I live in NYC and without shopping on Walmart.com I would be a slave to Duane Greed which charges an arm and a leg for everything. My bills have dropped dramatically by shopping at Walmart. THANKS.
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