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Old 06-19-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Originally Posted by K-Luv View Post
A few years ago you were likely to wait in line at Subway. These days, not so much (depending on location, I suppose).

I like Subway because I can pile on the spinach and tomatoes and jalapeƱos.

However, I fully believe that the drop in sales has to do with the typical Subway consumer more than anything. I really stopped going to Subway only because I got tired of waiting behind every single doofus who had to have the entire order toasted (which seemed to be everyone in front of me in line, every time ). What is the attraction to "Eating Fresh", let alone going for fast food, when many, many, customers want to turn their "fresh" sandwich into a melt? When there is a line, it takes too long considering that my order would be complete long before the first sandwich finished toasting.

I also got tired of getting weird looks from the "sandwich artist" when I said "no" to having my sub toasted.
I'd thought they'd appreciate that since it's less work for them.

AFAIK, eating fresh and warm foods aren't mutually exclusive. You can cook processed foods, and you can cook natural foods, and still get different experiences.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Detailed instructions required! Arghhh!

I can't add to the comments about the food quality being kind of lackluster, since many of my sentiments have already been expressed.

I'm surprised nobody has commented on the ordering process (unless I missed it in one of the 100+ posts), where you go through the line and have to painstakingly explain what kind of bread you want, if it's toasted, and then give detailed instructions on the ingredients and their quantities. Sometimes, when I'm going out to eat (especially casual dining), I'm feeling rather lazy and just want to say "Can I get a #4 with no cheese, please?" It is tiring and mildly stressful to have to give such instruction on the sandwich. I can appreciate the concept behind it (customize your sandwich the way you want it), but it seems like a lot of detailed explaining to do, for something that ultimately is going to be mediocre.

By the way, I make an effort not to let my frustration with having to explain my order to the employees behind the counter, because I imagine it's frustrating for them, and makes every order more complicated than it needs to be. I know every restaurant is going to have people who customize their orders in hair splitting ways, but Subway's process basically makes everybody do this without having the option to order a #4 (at least the ones I've been to).

This, along with the solidly mediocre food quality, is why I usually pick another option if it's available.

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Old 06-19-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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There was a great article on this issue on the Guardian website. As a Brit is spearheading efforts to turn around the golden arches. Im mcdonalds' case, they are so big they couldnt even go organic overnight if they even wanted to, as they literally wouldnt be able to procure enough food!!!
Saving that article for a rainy day.

But yeah, McD is so big that whenever they introduce a new product, it takes years of research, taste testings, having select locations test market it, working out logistics, sourcing, etc. to finally put it into play. Or, something could happen part way and it gets pulled. Nice thing about the "indie" mom and pop shop... they can shift directions more or less right away.

One of the amusing things when Wendy's was rolling out their new burger recipe was they hired a "pickle chemist" to offer his insights on the whole deal
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: EPWV
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Subway made 2 mistakes that are destroying its business

1) Making subs that don't look anything like their advertised subs
2) Passing it off as if they do
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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They just announced they are removing all artificial ingredients. Like Panera did earlier.
Too late for me.
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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They did something with the bread. Bread is 85% of a sub. Horrible stuff. I'm out of there.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Orcutt, CA (Santa Maria Valley)
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I like Subway, but Jersey Mikes is so much better!
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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Though the FDA has never defined the difference between "natural" and "artificial" ingredients, Subway is taking steps to remove additives that are chemically derived and replace them with familiar ingredients. For example, Subway's turkey cold cuts are preserved in proprionic acid, an inhibitor of bacterial growth. Though proprionic acid is "a naturally occurring" acid, and is produced by the human body, repeated exposure at high levels can be harmful. Subway will replace the proprionic acid it uses with vinegar.

Kind of interesting , as sometimes there is a reason for these chemicals to be used. If everything were raw/natural I think sometimes people don't think of the possible side effects from it. They just think 'natural' is good.
Yeah, arsenic is natural too, but I doubt you want that in your food.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: CT
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They got rid of the $5 footlong, replaced it with $6 6 inch subs with a chips and drink and thought I wouldn't notice.
Wait till they have to start paying the help $15/hr. "twenty dollar foot long", just doesn't have the same ring as "$5 dollar foot long"
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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I actually like Subway. The ones here have drive thrus, however I find it easier to go in and order.
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