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Old 01-05-2009, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Minnesota, USA
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Drives me nuts to see people in the B&N coffee shop surrounded by magazines and books...which they leave on the tables and chairs. This is cheap and freeloading, in my opinion. That's what libraries are for0 I can't figure out why they let 'customers' do that. I shop on Amazon because I can't stand the mess. I'm thrilled the chairs are gone.
Devil's advocate: Wouldn't just going to the library and reading the books there be freeloading too?
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Old 01-05-2009, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Darlington, SC
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My goodness. I know libraries have bathrooms. What happened to her eventually?
She still was coming in every day when I quit.

We called her the pee lady, as she smelled like Urine 20 feet away. It was gross.
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Accokeek, Maryland
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Well, because the the bookstore has already purchased the book (it's not like the author has to wait until they sell it to get money...right?), and they are permitting you to read it within the store. If they weren't allowing that, then yeah, it would be similar to driving off with gas in your car (though probably not as bad because you'd get the full benefit of the gas vs. not being able to read the book at home). And I should mention, it's not like I never buy books - I sometimes do, depending on my circumstances. Those long hours at Barnes and Noble ended up in a lot of purchases - magazines, from the budget section, even full-priced books. And considering how much I like the store people get me gift cards there all the time, which often end up spent on books and magazines. I think that's B & N's business model. However, right now I prefer to borrow them as I need more bookshelf space.
Guess again. Book stores only pay for the books they actually sell off the shelf to customers, and they return the unsold ones to the publishers. Authors only get paid for the books actually sold to customers, NOT for the all the books ordered by book stores. So clearly "reading for free" at a B&N (as opposed to at a library, where the library has purchased the book for their collection) is ripping off the author, as well as the publisher who has financed the priniting and production of the book ... all in order to put it in stores so that it can be read for free?
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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Sounds like they need some wax-lining paper on those B&N couches as they have in the doctors office.
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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Devil's advocate: Wouldn't just going to the library and reading the books there be freeloading too?
Tax dollars pay for most libraries. It's clearly spelled out in our property tax bills here in COLO. I pay for it, so I use it. Those who don't use their local public library are missing out, big-time, on a whole lot of no-fee services.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: York, PA
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Tax dollars pay for most libraries. It's clearly spelled out in our property tax bills here in COLO. I pay for it, so I use it. Those who don't use their local public library are missing out, big-time, on a whole lot of no-fee services.
Exactly!
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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IMO , the libraries are the most wonderful resource that we have. I am always surprised when
people tell me that they have never been to their library and have no idea of where it even is.
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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Cheapskate, I would just point out that no one is "ripping off" your work if they wouldn't have bought your book in the first place. I understand your frustration, but it would seem Random House would be the one you should address this concern to, considering your publisher allows bookstores to return unsold books. Or perhaps you could insist your books come shrink-wrapped so that no one can possibly read them without paying. And certainly you should look into a campaign to wipe out book-borrowing - think of all those lost sales! Just kidding.

I think stores installed the chairs, the coffeebars and cafes, and the music sections in an attempt to stop the bleeding from the internet. I must confess I have not purchased a book from a book store - other than a last-minute gift - in 5 years or so. It's just too easy to buy them online. But to be honest, I can't see how they help business.
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: anywhere
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IMO , the libraries are the most wonderful resource that we have. I am always surprised when
people tell me that they have never been to their library and have no idea of where it even is.
Can I just give the biggest Amen ever on that ?
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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It's the Clifton store... and from someone I still know there.. it's still the same
Remind me never to set foot in there.........
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