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Old 06-18-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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If England beats Algeria then ties Slovenia. It would be a 3 way tie (I think). It would go to whatever the tiebreaker is which I believe is Goal differential in all matches. It would be bad for the US if England beats Algeria by more than a few goals and then ties Slovenia.

If England loses today and we beat Algeria we are in.

I think.

Edit, yeah, what GC said.
If England loses today and loses to Slovenia, and we beat Algeria...
7 - Slovenia
6 - Algeria
5 - US
1 - England

I think that's the only scenario where we wouldn't advance by beating Algeria.

I think an England-Algeria tie today and an England win/tie against Slovenia, would still provide a chance to get #1 based on goal differential either with US-England or US-Slovenia.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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If England loses today and loses to Slovenia, and we beat Algeria...
7 - Slovenia
6 - Algeria
5 - US
1 - England

I think that's the only scenario where we wouldn't advance by beating Algeria.
How does Algeria get to 6 points with only 1 win? They would only have 3 points, not 6.

I outlined the correct scenario. (so did G. Castanza)

England loses out and we beat Algeria, we are in.

Slovenia-7
US-5
Algeria-3
England-1
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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How does Algeria get to 6 points with only 1 win? They would only have 3 points, not 6.

I outlined the correct scenario. (so did G. Castanza)
never mind.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The match between England and Algeria is nearing its end and still 0:0.

After a week I guess one can say that the former dominance of the classic European teams is gone, which is a good thing.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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After a week I guess one can say that the former dominance of the classic European teams is gone, which is a good thing.
Interesting observation.

I feel there exist only 4 "superpowers"
Brazil
Argentina
Germany
Italy

These teams are anywhere from good to elite nearly at all times.
And years they do happen to be less than good, it's usually due to being too young and/or being too old and/or poor chemistry. But the talent and mystique are ALWAYS there.

After them, you have teams come and go ...

due to the emergence of a star or stars
France (Zidane)
Portugal (Luis Figo, Cristiano Rinaldo)
Bulgaria (Hristo Stoichkov)
Sweden (Tomas Brolin, Martin Dahlin)
Urugway (Diego Forlan)

or due to a collection of solid players, very good chemistry and good fortune
Turkey in 2002
S. Korea in 2002
Croatia in 1998

And after them, you have the very talented underachievers
England
Netherlands
Spain
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:57 PM
 
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(meant to include this with my above post)

Past 5 World Cups
1990
1st: Germany
2nd: Argentina
3rd: Italy
4th: England
1994
1st: Brazil
2nd: Italy
3rd: Sweden
4th: Bulgaria
1998
1st: France
2nd: Brazil
3rd: Croatia
4th: Netherlands
2002
1st: Brazil
2nd: Germany
3rd: Turkey
4th: S. Korea
2006
1st: Italy
2nd: France
3rd: Germany
4th: Portugal
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Old 06-18-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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Where did I say I was ok with incompetence? I said we were robbed today. However, if you've watched football for a long time you'll know this stuff (refereeing blunders) happens. It's the inevitable outcome of having Human referees who usually have to decide in real time.

If you feel aggrieved now, you should try talking to some Irish fans.
NA..this was not a bad call..this was a predetermined effort to screw the U.S.A out of a win...this was different..

A bad call i can live with...if you even look at the replay you can see this was not a bad call but something much much worse..
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Interesting observation.

I feel there exist only 4 "superpowers"
Brazil
Argentina
Germany
Italy

These teams are anywhere from good to elite nearly at all times.
And years they do happen to be less than good, it's usually due to being too young and/or being too old and/or poor chemistry. But the talent and mystique are ALWAYS there.

After them, you have teams come and go ...

due to the emergence of a star or stars
France (Zidane)
Portugal (Luis Figo, Cristiano Rinaldo)
Bulgaria (Hristo Stoichkov)
Sweden (Tomas Brolin, Martin Dahlin)
Urugway (Diego Forlan)

or due to a collection of solid players, very good chemistry and good fortune
Turkey in 2002
S. Korea in 2002
Croatia in 1998

And after them, you have the very talented underachievers
England
Netherlands
Spain
I guess you can finally erase Italy from your superpower list, too
Doesn't look good for European teams this time...
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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The match between England and Algeria is nearing its end and still 0:0.

After a week I guess one can say that the former dominance of the classic European teams is gone, which is a good thing.
I think it is a little early to make that statement.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:19 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Yet another diving incident, this time by a player from the Ivory Coast. The Brazilian player was sent off the field, quite angry, can't blame him
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