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Old 06-21-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Americans...and only Americans play football.
What about Canadians??
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:37 PM
 
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Because it is what it is; get over it. Oh, and thank you for the bunch of Vesica Piscis nonsense.



No. Kicking the football determines field position and scores in the manner of something called "field goals." Most NFL kickers come from a soccer background and are the most non-athletic people on the entire team.



Good for them.


And there's something wrong with that?



Says you; the NFL is by far the most watched and popular sport in the United States. NASCAR may have more butts in seats, but anyone in the US can tell you that the NFL is the most popular sport.



Fans follow the "sport" because we love it. The game stops because it is such a physically challenging "sport," unlike SOCCER. As for many players dying before the age of 50 might be because it is so physically demanding and yes, destructive. Players have the option of playing or not playing. It's a physically demanding and dangerous game, unlike soccer.
based on this, considering there is no protection in terms of helmets and pads in Aussie Rules, you run as much if not more than soccer (average AFL player runs 15km a game, elite players running up to 20km + the warm ups etc). There are 18 players on the field, with 4 on the bench. 22 players can only be used in one game.

It is also the only sport you can be hit 360 deg from any angle, at fast speeds.

You need to have speed, strength and high aerobatic capacity. There are no time outs. The actual playing time is 120 minutes. (4 qtrs, each roughly half hr)

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I could care less about how the name of American Football was derived or how it "offends" a bunch of panty waisted soccer players and their fans. Get over it. Again, it is what it is. We can name our sports whatever we feel like naming them.



Prone to racist comments are you? This statement is devoid of facts.

Who cares? How many players are colored versus how many are light skinned in soccer? Besides, some of the most racist crap I've ever heard was from soccer fans. I seem to recall the following.


YouTube - Benfica fans hurl racist monkey chants at FC Porto players...for shame


YouTube - European Racism

And those are just the tip of the iceberg.




The NFL game is different than soccer, we've already established that. Some of the athletes are so many levels above soccer players in not only speed and agility, but sheer strength. Also, there is a need for large, heavy bodied linemen on both sides of the ball. The game is what it is, and it is the most exciting game in the world. THIS is the NFL.
I don't agree with that.

They're all good sports.All diifferent, which make them all interesting.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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2. The ball used by the Australian Rules Football players is a ball. An egg shaped ball. A prolate spheroid like the rugby ball. The pass the ball by kicking it as well. In the U.S. , the rugby egg shaped ball was modified, it is no longer a ball, I suggest you to read the geometrical definition of a ball. The NFL uses a VESICA PISCIS OBJECT, not a ball.

Vesica Piscis (http://www.crystalinks.com/vesicapisces.html - broken link)

The most common modern object based on the vesica piscis is the American football, which resembles the interior almond-shaped area of the vesica piscis swept about its long "axis" to produce a 3D object with rotational symmetry.

Why would you call that a Ball? Would you call a baseball "bat" a ball too?

Also, why would you call the NFL version "football"?

Do you kick the object to pass it? No?

Australians do use their feet to pass the ball during the game, also to score a "goal".

The NFL version has been modified to be more profitable. They killed the sport in the process. A vesica piscis ovoid object is used, use helmets as weapons to collision, the game is always stopped, many players are dying before the age of 50, and fans basically are too brainwashed to realize they are following a "sport" just because ESPN (and the NFL owners) says that's the "national sport.

1. Baseball is very popular in other American countries but they still call it "baseball" "beisbol" (same sound same word and meaning). People who play baseball outside the U.S. Did not change the name of the sport, or modified the ball to a Vesica Piscis object, or didn't change the rules to make it more profitable.

The NFL version should be modified back to what it was 100 years ago (a valid football version) or be modified to be more like the Aussie RulesFootball version... No helmets, no pads, the players dont stop (just for few seconds), KICK the ball to pass it, and BURN the fat. Fans can watch healthy people playing a sport. The NFL players look like obese African Americans. That sport is very biased, because the light skinned player is ALWAYS the quarterback, and the rest of the fat players are always colored, obese, expendable, and used as weapons to collide.

How many quarterbacks are colored?? Vs how many are light skinned?
How many are obese? they dont even run more than 2 miles in a single game. The average FIFA player runs 12 kilometers in one single game and the Australian rules football players probably run more kilometers.
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What about Canadians??
They play in the CFL. Good athletes, but secondary to the top sport in the world, the NFL.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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based on this, considering there is no protection in terms of helmets and pads in Aussie Rules, you run as much if not more than soccer (average AFL player runs 15km a game, elite players running up to 20km + the warm ups etc). There are 18 players on the field, with 4 on the bench. 22 players can only be used in one game.

It is also the only sport you can be hit 360 deg from any angle, at fast speeds.

You need to have speed, strength and high aerobatic capacity. There are no time outs. The actual playing time is 120 minutes. (4 qtrs, each roughly half hr)



I don't agree with that.

They're all good sports.All diifferent, which make them all interesting.
Soccer is BOOORING. Live with that. It's a reality. The so called "sport" is like watching ants parade around a field with vuvaldas going off constantly. This is big in third world countries though, because the "sport" of soccer requires no money in which to invest. A dozen t-shirts, four garbage piles (two for each team to define their goals), and HEY! YOU GOT YOURSELF A GAME!!!!!

The "sport" is fine, lol. I'm sure it's exiting as all get out... Oh, I meant "exciting."
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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They're all good sports.All diifferent, which make them all interesting.
Agreed 100 percent. Of course, some people might not like one or more of the footballs, but that's fine too.

I will never understand why people like Edu or buzzpost get so butthurt about who likes what sport or what the sport is called. They are all football. Like as many or as few as you like, but stop demanding that your opinions are fact and that everyone else has to be as narrow-minded as you, because you both look foolish.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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They play in the CFL. Good athletes, but secondary to the top sport in the world, the NFL.
if you think the NFL is the top sport in the world you're insane.


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Soccer is BOOORING. Live with that. It's a reality. The so called "sport" is like watching ants parade around a field with vuvaldas going off constantly. This is big in third world countries though, because the "sport" of soccer requires no money in which to invest. A dozen t-shirts, four garbage piles (two for each team to define their goals), and HEY! YOU GOT YOURSELF A GAME!!!!!

The "sport" is fine, lol. I'm sure it's exiting as all get out... Oh, I meant "exciting."
yeah, football is real exciting, 60% of the broadcast is commercials. They spend more time showing you replays of what you just say than actual game footage.

you never read the Wall Street Journal report, of course, you don't seem like the type that reads

Football Games Have 11 Minutes of Action - WSJ.com

According to a Wall Street Journal study of four recent broadcasts, and similar estimates by researchers, the average amount of time the ball is in play on the field during an NFL game is about 11 minutes.
In other words, if you tally up everything that happens between the time the ball is snapped and the play is whistled dead by the officials, there's barely enough time to prepare a hard-boiled egg. In fact, the average telecast devotes 56% more time to showing replays.

The most surprising finding of The Journal's study—that the average game has just 10 minutes and 43 seconds of actual playing time—has been corroborated by other researchers
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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..... not Polland or some low gdp Per Capita country.
Never heard of "Polland."
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Soccer is BOOORING. Live with that. It's a reality. The so called "sport" is like watching ants parade around a field with vuvaldas going off constantly.

no, that is your opinion.

The rest of the world is soccer mad. It IS the world game. Don't be so insular!

You do know that the Vuvuzela's aren't part of the standard soccer culture, right?

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This is big in third world countries though, because the "sport" of soccer requires no money in which to invest.
A dozen t-shirts, four garbage piles (two for each team to define their goals), and HEY! YOU GOT YOURSELF A GAME!!!!!

The "sport" is fine, lol. I'm sure it's exiting as all get out... Oh, I meant "exciting."
you judge the excitment of a sport by how much it costs to play?
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand
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They play in the CFL. Good athletes, but secondary to the top sport in the world, the NFL.
How do you define the NFL as the 'top' sport in the world?
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:03 AM
 
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They play in the CFL. Good athletes, but secondary to the top sport in the world, the NFL.
Except only Americans give a sh*t about it. So that rules out the other 5 billion people in the world, doesn't it?
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