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Old 07-06-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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If you don't see baseball and football you muct be in a strange place. Little leagur football and basabll are one of the largest numbers of team in the USA. Even girls softball is biger than soccer.Look at the number of high school baseball;football and basketball temas alone. Thsie htree get the best athletes in this country by far. To deny it is to live in a closet.

Actually, youth soccer has a much higher participation than baseball or football and has for several years.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: South Philly
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If you don't see baseball and football you muct be in a strange place. Little leagur football and basabll are one of the largest numbers of team in the USA. Even girls softball is biger than soccer.Look at the number of high school baseball;football and basketball temas alone. Thsie htree get the best athletes in this country by far. To deny it is to live in a closet.
In the town i grew up in (in the 80's) almost everyone (boys and girls) played soccer in the rec. leagues until they were in 6th or 7th grade - at which point things got more competitive and the less talented players dropped out.

Little league was big with boys but in terms of sheer numbers of players it wasn't nearly as big as soccer.

To pit it another way, my town of 5,500 had 8 youth soccer teams for most age groups below the 7th grade. We had 5 or 6 tee ball teams and two little league teams. To play football at the youth level you had to go two towns away and play on a regional team because none of the other towns had youth football either.

I went to a relatively small high school but field hockey was bigger than softball for girls (as it was in most other area high schools). My high school dominated girls sports locally. Our boys tennis team was good. Ditto our surf and swim teams. Football was a big deal but we were never any good. I think it had more to do with the predilections of of the athletic director than the popularity amongst students. Other local high schools had big reputations for football. It just wasn't us. Likewise, other neighboring schools had big reputations for soccer, ice hockey, lacrosse, baseball, track & field, etc.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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I think that's really the same issue. As with any other pro sport players are going to follow the big salaries. Those salaries are in Europe.

Even if soccer in the US doubles in popularity in the next decade we're not going to be attracting top, international talent. Until you see kids in Argentina or England wearing LA Galaxy jerseys the league just won't have the money. The game is just too popular in those places to be able to compete for fans. It's not like in baseball where everyone in the world knows the Yankees or in basketball where everyone knows the Lakers. Those are the teams to beat in the world - comparable to a Barcelona or Boca Juniors.
Well I personally think that the sport has a ceiling of potential popularity because of that here. That being said, if we could get a club league on par with Belgium and Scandinavia (sans Ajax) then I think you could call soccer a real success in America. MLS is a ways from that I think though.
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: EAST-SIDE INDIANAPOLIS
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I've been watching MLS games recently and two things I've noticed, someone must like soccer because the stands seem to be full.

The 2nd thing I've noticed we need to get some crazy euro/ south americans to play here or get some better home grown talent because while I enjoy watching the games. The world cup is so awesome to watch it kinda downs me to see lower level competition (because the only other time I've watched has been the world cup).

Although Landon Donovans first game back was pretty cool to watch, I think the Galaxy are going to be the best chance to get a foothold of popularity going
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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Better buy some anti deppressants then.

I think it is safe to say that while soccer can improve in stature and quality, it should not be expected to rival the European leagues. They as nations just care about it more than we do. Hell no one in America cares that we don't dominate the World Baseball classic!

Maybe if American football was international and we got our butts handed to us by ioono Greece, we'd seriously consider focus on that....
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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I've been following soccer since the 1994 world cup, and I can honestly say that I've never seen so many people into the sport like they are now. Even my former soccer basher friends are calling me on a regular basis asking me various questions about the sport; about MLS, the Champions Leage, Premier League, etc... The tv ratings are remarkable to say the least...nearly 70 percent higher than the previous world cup.

So...my question is, are we witnessing a soccer revolution here? Do you think the popularity of MLS and soccer in general is going to be bolstered because of the massive popularity of the world cup? Or, is this just another case of American bandwagonism???
Once people catch on to the massive ref corruption soccer will be back in the crapper where it belongs.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Once people catch on to the massive ref corruption soccer will be back in the crapper where it belongs.
The only things originating from the crapper are your posts.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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Actually, youth soccer has a much higher participation than baseball or football and has for several years.
That's because it's pretty much a 100% participation sport, regardless of abilities or talent. Any little kid can run up and down the field depending on which way the ball is headed. And that is what 80% of the participants do. Just running along, rarely if ever coming into contact with the ball. The really talented kids - maybe 10-20% of players on just about any given youth league team, are the ones scoring the goals and playing goalie.

I used to coach a youth soccer team, and watched both of my kids play for years, as well as my grandkids.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Once people catch on to the massive ref corruption soccer will be back in the crapper where it belongs.
There is no ref corruption in the MLS and most leagues in the world. Bad officiating exist as it does in all sports but actual corruption is not as common as your post would indicate.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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That's because it's pretty much a 100% participation sport, regardless of abilities or talent. Any little kid can run up and down the field depending on which way the ball is headed. And that is what 80% of the participants do. Just running along, rarely if ever coming into contact with the ball. The really talented kids - maybe 10-20% of players on just about any given youth league team, are the ones scoring the goals and playing goalie.

I used to coach a youth soccer team, and watched both of my kids play for years, as well as my grandkids.

The same can be said for all youth sports.
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