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Old 03-09-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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That's what im saying though. It gives smaller teams something to look forward to. There is 92 teams in the English football league and it allows them to push up the leagues and become successful.

We really dont have that issue in the states except with baseball. MLS is built so that there is parity. There are no "smaller teams". It isnt uncommon for one team to be one of the worst in the league one season and be one of the best the next season. We dont have one team with a 50 million dollar payroll and another with a 5 million dollar payroll. All the teams have a salary cap to abide by so a team can only spend so much money and be so good. NY Red Bulls maybe the richest team in the entire league and they have never once won a title. We dont need to have a relegation race to make things interesting because most teams are in the playoff race until the last couple of weeks of the season. For 4 years straight, my team was playing for a playoff spot during their last game of the season.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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We really dont have that issue in the states except with baseball. MLS is built so that there is parity. There are no "smaller teams". It isnt uncommon for one team to be one of the worst in the league one season and be one of the best the next season. We dont have one team with a 50 million dollar payroll and another with a 5 million dollar payroll. All the teams have a salary cap to abide by so a team can only spend so much money and be so good. NY Red Bulls maybe the richest team in the entire league and they have never once won a title. We dont need to have a relegation race to make things interesting because most teams are in the playoff race until the last couple of weeks of the season. For 4 years straight, my team was playing for a playoff spot during their last game of the season.

Can you explain the financial part of the MLS, i partly understand it but do not know all of it - wage caps etc..
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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Can you explain the financial part of the MLS, i partly understand it but do not know all of it - wage caps etc..

It is a single-entity organization. When a player signs, they sign with the league. The league pays the player salaries. There is an exception to that in the designated player rule which includes players like Beckham and Henry. With those players, only $385K counts toward the cap and the team pays the remaining salary which has no limit. A team can only have two of those players unless they trade with another team for their slot, then they can have a third. That's it. There are also salary slots for 6 "Homegrown Players" which are players that came up through each team's academy and have to be under 24 years old.

The salary cap is near 3 million per year and except for the Designated Players, a team cannot exceed that.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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It is a single-entity organization. When a player signs, they sign with the league. The league pays the player salaries. There is an exception to that in the designated player rule which includes players like Beckham and Henry. With those players, only $385K counts toward the cap and the team pays the remaining salary which has no limit. A team can only have two of those players unless they trade with another team for their slot, then they can have a third. That's it. There are also salary slots for 6 "Homegrown Players" which are players that came up through each team's academy and have to be under 24 years old.

The salary cap is near 3 million per year and except for the Designated Players, a team cannot exceed that.

So whats the maximum wage for an 'average' player?

And im guessing this stops the £200,000+ a week wages England has.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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you can see the actual salary information here

MLS Players Union :: Player Salary Information

looks like on average a good player will pull around $100,000 with an average player bringing in closer to $70,000 a year

as the league expands & grows the amount of wealth will grow with it .... another reason why it's important to be very deliberate in how many teams you have, where they are located, etc

right now there isn't a ton of TV money for MLS or a lot of other league wide revenue sources ...... if you put a team in a wrong place (or more relevant to this discussion have a team from a higher revenue/interest city get sent down for a team from a lower revenue/interest city it would harm the entire league finances)

it's going to be a long road, but the model in place is pretty encouraging and they will make TV money this year .... it wasn't that long ago they were actually paying to be on TV
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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So whats the maximum wage for an 'average' player?

And im guessing this stops the £200,000+ a week wages England has.

The maximum wage for any non-DP player is $385,000.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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The maximum wage for any non-DP player is $385,000.

Per week or per year?
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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Per week or per year?

Oh no, per year.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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Oh no, per year.

I was going to say, per week thats more than in Europe!

I'm guessing by your location that you are a Sporting Kansas fan?
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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[quote-finger laker] ''since they formed the premiership there have been 9 teams that have finished in the top 3 and 4 teams have won a title .... since 1995 the same 3 teams have accounted for all the titles over the prior 7 season the top 3 have consisted of only 4 teams .... manchester united, chelsea, arsenal or liverpool ..... again, not really compelling''

well why is it the most watched league in the world then? followed worldwide by over half a billion people in 202 countries? they must think its compelling!

Read more: Premier League Football
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