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Old 08-29-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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So in this study, if a penalty is not given it counts that as a goal taken away?
Yes because saved or missed penalties are unheard in the Premiership!
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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A single player in any match makes more mistakes in the game than an official does the entire game.
Any single player isn't in the position of being judge, jury and executioner.. such as an official. Match officials are entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring a fair result. If they're not doing their job, it hurts the sport....

And sometimes the mistakes are particularly hard to understand...for example this infamous one from 2005 at Old Trafford. Of course, it doesn't seem to matter what year it is, Man U always seems to be gifted points..



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Old 08-29-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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2004-2005 United finished 3rd, knocking off the one point they got from that match wouldn't have dropped them into 4th place, and giving Spurs an extra two points wouldn't have put them in a place for Europe qualification.

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Old 08-30-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Any single player isn't in the position of being judge, jury and executioner.. such as an official. Match officials are entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring a fair result. If they're not doing their job, it hurts the sport....

And sometimes the mistakes are particularly hard to understand...for example this infamous one from 2005 at Old Trafford. Of course, it doesn't seem to matter what year it is, Man U always seems to be gifted points..

There is no denying that officials have an impact on the game and their poor performances hurt the sport. However, players have far more impact on the game than the officials. Every single player on the field makes multiple mistakes a game or maybe they do not make the most optimal decision to help thier team win. Officials are human beings and they are going to make mistakes. But, teams decide who wins the game in the long run.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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I'm a hardcore Arsenal supporter, but I won't for one second even pretend that the choke job we pulled last year, or the abysmal start to this season are in any way whatsoever related to anything other than our own fault. Time to step up and realize that the Gunners have zero fault to place on anyone other than themselves.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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I'm a hardcore Arsenal supporter, but I won't for one second even pretend that the choke job we pulled last year, or the abysmal start to this season are in any way whatsoever related to anything other than our own fault. Time to step up and realize that the Gunners have zero fault to place on anyone other than themselves.
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Would you feel differently if the Gunners had finished in second only a couple points off the title?

I agree, last year's failure was their own fault. I believe they only won 2 of their last 11.

However, that by itself doesn't negate the findings of the study. For, according to the results, not only did Arsenal suffer in the standings, but Blackpool and Birmingham shouldn't have been relegated..
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