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Old 04-11-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Pads...? First off, they're not called 'footballers', that's for soccer. And second, those pads don't make you look THAT much bigger and that's not even the purpouse of having them. In the NFL, you're average Linebacker is about 6'3, 200 something pounds.

You know, because it would be stupid to play a sport that requires you to actually hit or physically tackle someone while half the time you're meeting someone head up.

How smart would it be to play a sport where you have to do this WITHOUT pads?


HARD football hit - YouTube

(being a TCU fan, it's hard for me to watch that, but you get the point. )

Rugby players dont wear them. They have to take a full on tackle. How much would an American footballer get paid a week.

 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:30 AM
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Rugby players dont wear them. They have to take a full on tackle. How much would an American footballer get paid a week.
Don't know much about Rugby's history, but American football players were getting killed and maimed because there was a time when they had NO pads or helmet at all.

Especially now since football preached here is "bigger, stronger, faster". This sport was nearly banned in the early 1900's due to the deaths that took place, so you had to put in more protection.


Also, let's not get into player salaries.... And keep in mind, in rugby you can only past the ball lateral or backwards. In football, you can pass it UP field and things like what I just showed you can happen.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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Also, let's not get into player salaries
Well thats one of the one things most of the sports have in common. They all get paid ridiculous amounts of money that could be going to something different.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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oh yea because my 'ignorance' doesnt enlighten me to the fact that he went to spain from argentina because his parents couldnt afford some treatment for his medical condition which the team paid for... and now he's beloved in spain but disregarded in argentina because he's more of a spaniard now to them and does nothing for their national team. yea i didnt know about that

See, you know a lot of football facts, why are arguing then?
Seems like you like watching it too, you just don't want others to know as this sport is only for the "soccer moms".
i actually do watch a lot of soccer... but my initial post was listing reasons why americans in general dont like soccer... because that was the question being asked.

that response which was innocent enough was then disregarded as 'ignorance'... which is funny considering the amount of soccer i do watch because i watch most sports.
i watch MLS and mexican soccer league, which are terrible compared to euro leagues but i still watch, because i like all sports. i dont think i called soccer lame or inferior in any of my posts.

all i did was list the reasons which the thread asked for, then that guy got all upset n called it 'ignorance'. whats the point of asking for opinions if you're going to disregard them as ignorance.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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Because there are several misleading and false statements in your post. I am not going analyze your post because it is a waste of time.

You along with a lot of Americans seem to think that size equals athleticism. Cyclist that ride in the Tour de France are among the world's best athletes and they are skinnier than a beanpole. You do not have to be tall or packed with muscle to be a freak athlete. This is a huge misnomer. You can be an average looking person and be a freak athlete. You dont see the world's best marathon runners packed with muscle or you dont see people that finish in the top 100 of the Ironman competition looking like Lebron or Chris Johnson. People that are among the best in Ironman competition are the true freak athletes.

Soccer players that play at the highest level in England, Spain, Italy, etc are freak athletes. Do you have any idea what it takes to be running at a full sprint and chip a ball 30 yards to another player that is also running at a full sprint? This is done with their feet. Not their hands which you have a lifetime of training using through everyday task like eating or tieing your shoes. Most people couldnt pass a ball to a person 10 feet away if they were asked to. I once worked with an American football player for two hours simply trying to get him to pass the ball to me from a short distance and he couldnt do it. This guy went on to play Division I football at Michigan.
Chris Johnson is 5'11 and 185 lbs.... so... all that typing for nothing and he's 50 million times the athlete messi is
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:50 AM
 
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Eh have you ever heard of a penalty shoot out. It basicly means that the last kick of the game will deside who wins it. Thats better then your stupid shot at a buzzer. Football has so much passion its unbelievable. Do you want some more examples. Let me show you what it means to some people across the pond and down south.
are u being serious... penalty kicks, a situation that is not even during the actual game play... where all play is stopped and you get a free shot at a gigantic post... with only the goalie to defend

that is better than a contested shot at the last second of the game to win it all when you're down and the clock is racing against you and the entire team is defending your shot... LMAO. sure thing dude.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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He is still a better player and has achieved more in his short life then any of your basketball players or whatever sports you play. Oh and whats that thing your American footballers wear to make them look bigger and harder. Anyone could look big wearing one of those things.
hmmm

let me think

Michael Jordan is a collegiate champion, an olympic champion, 6x NBA champion. he has been scoring champion and defensive player of the year. 10 scoring titles. 5x MVP.

and messi has zero world cup wins. is the world cup not the biggest stage in the sport? or is it the uefa league championships that is bigger than the world cup?

i dont want to embarrass you any further by comparing Jordan's accolades to messi's. Messi disappears in the biggest stage in soccer. EL Apache carlos tevez outplays messi in the world cup. go away
 
Old 04-11-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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Why do you care what size the athlete is? You obviously know little about athleticism if you think that size matters that much. The best athletes that have walked this planet were not muscle bound freaks. You can be among the world's greatest athletes and be an average person. Some of the best cyclist in the world are so skinny you can almost see their ribs. Yet, I would rank them as better athletes than anyone playing in the NBA or NFL.

yea what do i know about athleticism.

ath·let·ic (th-ltk)
adj.
1. Of or befitting athletics or athletes.
2. Characterized by or involving physical activity or exertion; active: an athletic lifestyle; an athletic child.
3. Physically strong and well-developed; muscular: an actor with an athletic build.


an example that you will either ignore or avoid is Chris Johnson's athletic ability ... which includes his speed (4.24 seconds in the 40 yard dash), a 35 inch vertical, 10'10'' broad jump, and 315 pound bench press.

and he is 5'11, 190, not some 6'8 290 pound mutant. these 'stats' don't exist for messi or other soccer players. why, because soccer is more about skill than athleticism, thus explaining why a man as small as messi can dominate the sport.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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[quote=expect;23812178 i actually do watch a lot of soccer...
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Ok, good, now stop fighting .
 
Old 04-11-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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My biggest problem with soccer fans is that they get their panties in a wad when someone says they don't like soccer. Do we have threads on the basketball board asking why some people don't like basketball? No, because they don't care if people don't like their sport.

There are ways you can put down aspects of every sport. But most fans just say that's the way it is and we accept it is part of the game. They don't get defensive about it.
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