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Old 08-08-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Right. Late like Michael Jordan, Dwayne Wade, Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony, none of whom played organized basketball before middle school.

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I understand Jordan because he is from a different era, but the rest of them, I doubt that started after middle school
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I understand Jordan because he is from a different era, but the rest of them, I doubt that started after middle school
I didn't say after middle school. I said before middle school. These players don't go straight to organized league and tournament play at age 7. Middle school is often the first exposure most American basketball players have to a structured, organized format of play. Before then it's pickup games during recess and street games during summer vacation.
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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I didn't say after middle school. I said before middle school. These players don't go straight to organized league and tournament play at age 7. Middle school is often the first exposure most American basketball players have to a structured, organized format of play. Before then it's pickup games during recess and street games during summer vacation.

No, you are living in a dream world of ignorance there. AAU basketball starts at 2nd grade level, and by any serious talent in this country is playing by then. By 7th-8th grade you can allready find national lists of top talent.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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Middle School Elite Top 20 National Player Rankings 7th Grade (Class of 2016) | Middle School Elite

Here's an article on the top 20 5th grade players around:

MSE 2012 Rankings | Middle School Elite

back to 7th graders:

James Lewis - Top Rated Basketball Player (7th Grade) - Born to Compete - Born to Compete

Just looking at the top 100 Ohio 7th graders:

.: Ohio’s Top 100 Rising 7th Graders (2018)

I can keep posting hundreds of articles. In both basketball and soccer, this is highly structured and players are being developed in semi-professional to professional environments.
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:07 PM
 
Location: IL
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I guess I would call that "street ball." It sounds similar to having open gym back in middle and high school where you could do whatever you wanted. Most boys would play basketball and most girls would jump rope or do whatever it is that girls do (really don't remember).

The big difference, of course, is that the pool of talent for basketball is the general school age population. Pretty much everyone starts out playing the game on some level--usually during recess in elementary school and then after school hoops with friends--and then the weaker players simply don't make the cut for middle and high school teams. In soccer, you're starting out with a much smaller pool and your ability to compete can be compromised by a lack of financial resources. So in essence, you're getting the best players that can afford to play rather than the best players.

How old are your boys, btw? They sound really young (around 5 or 6, maybe).
I agree with your breakdown, although hoops is tough for the boys roght now as they are just so young. I put them in winter basketball and they had fun and like shooting on the neighbors hoop, but it is still early. Yeah, my boys are 6...I never would have imagined I would be paying more than Park and Rec for boys soccer at age 6. They love the sport, so we decided it was worth paying for. I, personally am not expecting this will turn them into pro soccer players, and if they ever say they don't love it I am pulling them out...but, they are learning a lot at a young age. I keep telling them they need to do tricks when we play in the back yard, it's pretty funny.
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Emmaus, PA
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To answer the original question - soccer is not popular in the U.S.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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seattle, south florida,and LA.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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To answer the original question - soccer is not popular in the U.S.
I was wondering when a troll would crawl out from underneath the bridge.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I was wondering when a troll would crawl out from underneath the bridge.
yeah...that only took a year and-a-half
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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Some trolls are slow readers.
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