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Old 06-30-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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I'm pulling for Italy. I counted them out after they couldn't find net against a pathetic English side and they came back to shock the Germans. Never rule out the bogey team. While watching Spain hoist a 3rd major trophy in succession would be quite the site, I get tired of seeing the same team win over and over and over (unless, of course, it's my team).
Actually, that was the game that made me count them in. Sure, it ended with a penalty shoot-out, but they flat-out dominated England.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:45 AM
 
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The dominated Germany also though and scored goals, so maybe Engerland weren't as bad as people made out!?
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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Spain will manage to find a winner against Italy today. viva espana!!!!
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:20 AM
 
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Italia 3-2!
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:41 AM
 
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The dominated Germany also though and scored goals, so maybe Engerland weren't as bad as people made out!?
England just ran out of steam....tired legs from a long, physical season. Italy were the better side on paper, but England could have done a bit better possession wise. The Germans attacked a lot more, but left themselves wide open at the back. England at least defended resolutely. Terry was fantastic, even though I can't stand the guy.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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England are the new ''old Italy'' defense wise.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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England are the new ''old Italy'' defense wise.
In terms of the future though, that is not how I'd like to see the England team evolve. That is not playing to our strengths. Hodgson needs to start making massive changes to the sqaud selection, even if that means scouring lesser Premier League teams or even the Championship for decent young players. We need to get back to playing the type of game that Terry Venables got us playing; a mixture of traditional English football and a more continental style passing game, aiming to keep possession. While we don't have many (or any) world class players, I think we can assemble a better team than the one at the Euros.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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In terms of the future though, that is not how I'd like to see the England team evolve. That is not playing to our strengths. Hodgson needs to start making massive changes to the sqaud selection, even if that means scouring lesser Premier League teams or even the Championship for decent young players. We need to get back to playing the type of game that Terry Venables got us playing; a mixture of traditional English football and a more continental style passing game, aiming to keep possession. While we don't have many (or any) world class players, I think we can assemble a better team than the one at the Euros.
Not a bad idea. You don't need a squad of "names" to find success. There's a lot of guys on the current Italy squad that I had never heard of until I read the rosters. Though, I have to admit, I have no access to Serie A and that is likely why I had not heard of most of them.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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England should only allow 4 foreign players on the starting 11 at a time that would give the English talent a chance to play top flight football. Also Uefa data showed that England had just 2,769 Uefa (Pro, A or B) licenced coaches compared to 34,970 in Germany, 29,240 in Italy and 23,995 in Spain, that need to change right now to stand any chance!
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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England should only allow 4 foreign players on the starting 11 at a time that would give the English talent a chance to play top flight football. Also Uefa data showed that England had just 2,769 Uefa (Pro, A or B) licenced coaches compared to 34,970 in Germany, 29,240 in Italy and 23,995 in Spain, that need to change right now to stand any chance!
I would prefer to see English talent also ply their trades abroad as that's one way the national team will eventually get better. Dale Jennings formerly of Tranmere did it and was signed by Bayern Munich. Limiting the number of foreign players would just hurt our club's chances in the UCL.
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