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Old 06-21-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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Pays to be good looking huh? Especially coming from a country where that is not the norm.
Yeah because everyone in the states looks like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie do they!



 
Old 06-21-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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no
Well, it's very true. I would pay to see a team from Europe not because the quality is higher but more because I would normally have to travel across the ocean to see them play.
 
Old 06-21-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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Have you actually watched the US team play recently?
Yes I have.

They were on a winning streak until Brazil beat them, including a victory over Italy.
 
Old 06-21-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Can you admit that maybe you view the MLS the same way because it is from the perspective you have from where you live or what you watch?
I have to account for that, but I'd also say that the places I've lived are probably a bit more representative of most of America. New York City alone has about as many people as Missouri and Kansas combined. The South has the largest population of any region and I can definitely tell you that basketball is much bigger there than soccer (i.e., North Carolina Tar Heels, Kentucky Wildcats, Duke Blue Devils, ACC basketball, etc.). The average Philadelphian (my hometown) could name Brian Dawkins, Mike Vick, Andre Igoudala or Allen Iverson, but would likely be hard-pressed to come up with the name of any MLS player within 10 seconds.

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Because if I were to measure things from my daily life, the MLS is 10x more popular than the NBA. Just to make it clear, I know that isnt true but just making a point that people's perspectives are different from the facts. The facts clearly show that the MLS is a force in this country and is growing wildly day-by-day.
I don't know if it's "growing wildly." I do think that it's growing, but I don't think that its popularity is really increasing among the masses. In other words, I would not expect to go to any barbershop, start a conversation about soccer, and expect to get any type of participation beyond, "Yeah, it's cool." On the other hand, there is one conversation taking place at barbershops, around water coolers, and in taxi cabs across America right now. And that conversation centers around the question, "Will Lebron choke again???"
 
Old 06-21-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Yes, the United States ranks ahead of Myanmar, Yemen, Curacao, Laos, Dominica, Tahiti, Pakistan, Mongolia, Lesotho, Grenada, Barbados, Turkmenistan, Burundi, Cyprus, Suriname, Kazakhstan, Liechtenstein, Nepal, Bahrain, Oman, Togo, Antigua, Guyana, Sudan, Libya, Slovakia, Armenia, Estonia, Montenegro, Trinidad and Tobago, Rwanda, Gabon, St. Kitts, Botswana, Luxembourg, Gambia, New Zealand and countless others. We should be really proud of working our way past war-torn nations and countries the size of Harlem.

Just imagine the shape the U.S. team would be in if it couldn't convince players with dual nationality to play for us.
Yes it ranks ahead of 85% of the national teams. That is usually considered good in a sport. Certainly well above average. At this point you have no argument.

It was fun.
 
Old 06-21-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Could you imagine what John Wall would have been like as a soccer player?


John Wall speeds by all 5 Miami Heat players - YouTube
 
Old 06-21-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Could you imagine what John Wall would have been like as a soccer player?


John Wall speeds by all 5 Miami Heat players - YouTube
Or Michael Jordan playing baseball........
 
Old 06-21-2012, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Or Michael Jordan playing baseball........
Haha. I knew someone would bring that up.

But soccer and basketball involve a similar type of physical exertion. Both require good lateral movement and quick cuts. I could see Derrick Rose, John Wall, Allen Iverson or Chris Paul slicing their way through defenders. Those specific players may not have turned out to be good footballers, but I could see someone with their athletic talents excelling at the sport.

The one criticism I hate hearing is, "Well, athleticism doesn't matter as much in soccer, so those guys may not be so good." Or "Soccer involves a skill set that they will likely not be able to master." I think most good athletes excel at nearly any sport. Hand-eye coordination, balance, timing, and spatial orientation will benefit you in a wide range of physical endeavors, not just one. There's a certain natural intelligence and intuition that good athletes have that helps them excel in almost any sport. If a guy is smart enough to figure out how to hedge, go over or under screens, or has a nose for sniffing out half court traps, then he's likely got the ability to understand the dynamics of other sports, too.
 
Old 06-21-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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Just to put things into perspective. If you took the top 15% of the english premier league you have:

Manchester City
Manchester United
Arsenal

You could argue Arsenal sucks because London is bigger than Manchester and Manchester City is a better team. However, most people consider Arsenal a good team.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Just to put things into perspective. If you took the top 15% of the english premier league you have:

Manchester City
Manchester United
Arsenal

You could argue Arsenal sucks because London is bigger than Manchester and Manchester City is a better team. However, most people consider Arsenal a good team.
Here's a better comparison.

Jordan is ranked No. 28 in the FIBA rankings. They rank behind Lithuania, Turkey, Australia, China, Russia, Angola, Puerto Rico, Slovenia, New Zealand, Iran, Lebanon, the Dominican Republic, and Canada among others. But they also rank ahead of Korea, Tunisia, Mexico, Poland, Madagascar, Latvia, Paraguay, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kuwait, Bulgaria, Mali, Uzbekistan and Finland.

Would you consider Jordan a good team?
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