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Old 06-22-2012, 01:59 PM
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The Southern Region, not the entire Southern part of the United States. I am talking Confederate States and SEC and ACC territory. The economics and statistics show that overall, the south struggles to support major league sports teams.

The Bucs, Magic, Jaguars, Marlins, Dolphins, Braves, Falcons, Hornets, and others are either all facing financial struggles or they have in the past due to lack of support from the fanbases.
Texas was a Confederate State..... I don't see any lack of support for anything, here?

Well, besides FC Dallas, but we all know why that is.

 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:01 PM
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Texas not big on sports? That is the impression I have always had.
.... that we WEREN'T big on sports?

I'm extra confused now.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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No I have always thought Texas was sports mad..... I should have put is at the start of my comment lol.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:08 PM
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No I have always thought Texas was sports mad..... I should have put is at the start of my comment lol.
Oh.... Aight.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Texas was a Confederate State..... I don't see any lack of support for anything, here?

Well, besides FC Dallas, but we all know why that is.

My god, really?
 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:20 PM
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My god, really?
What?
 
Old 06-22-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If you were to walk into a bar in the Pacific Northwest and start talking MLS, people would start talking and be knowledgeable about it. I know this because I just spent a week up there in Vancouver, Portland, and Seattle and talked to dozens of people all over the cities and even the airport security guy that frisked me was talking about details of the game the day before on my way home.
I can't speak much about the PNW because I've only visited there. But again, the overwhelming majority of Americans live east of the Mississippi River. So I don't think you can make any assessment about soccer's popularity across the country based on conversations you've had with people in Seattle, Vancouver (which is not the US) and Portland. Those places are so far removed from the norm in America. America is more like Newport News, Virginia than it is Portland, Oregon.

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That is what I mean about perspective. What I find about people that do not realize soccer is gaining popularity and doing so quickly, is that most of them are from the Southern region where MLS has no presence.
I'm from the Northeast and still live in the Northeast. Soccer is really only popular among certain Hispanics (we have lots of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Cubans here who prefer baseball over most sports), Africans and West Indians (a minority), and upper middle-class, well-educated, and well-traveled Europhiles (again, a minority).

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Roger Federer is one of the most famous athletes in the world because he is one of the best, if not the best at this sport so that comparison is weak at best. Landon Donovan isnt getting press all over the world as Federer does. The only time Landon is going to get any international press is when he scores a goal like he did in the 2010 World Cup or his limited time with Everton during loan. Federer is getting press in every country in the world during every tournament. That's like trying to compare Omaha to New York City.
This is a fair point.

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I never said jerseys of US players would be more. Of course Kobe's jersey is going to be, China buys basketball jerseys like we buy cans of soda pop. The top NBA players jerseys are also among the top sold jerseys in the world because of that, even more than Messi or Ronaldo even though the NBA is a drop in the bucket compared to EPL or La Liga. You have a nation of 1.5 billion people obsessed with the NBA. However, some stats show the popularity of the NBA within the U.S. is declining because it has a huge image problem.
I'm talking about jersey sales just in the United States. You're far more likely to see someone wearing a basketball jersey in your typical mall than a soccer jersey.

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I do not have the exact statistics in front of me but I believe two years ago, David Beckham's soccer jersey was the number 1 selling jersey in the world. I also believe that when you rank team jersey sales, Manchester United sells more jerseys within the United States than any NBA, NFL, MLB, or NHL team.
I don't know about that last part. The NBA probably doesn't keep track of team sales when it comes to jerseys. We identify jerseys with individual players. Nobody says, "Hey, I see you're wearing an L.A. Lakers jersey with the Number 24 on it today." They'd just say, "You're wearing a Kobe jersey." I would not be surprised, however, if Manchester U sells more jerseys than any team because that's the only team most Americans know. If you just look at straight up jersey sales in the US, which is the most relevant metric, soccer doesn't come close to basketball.

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Which brings me to another point. When you measure popularity of a particular sport, the options for basketball, baseball, and football are pretty much limited to the United States for the most part. However, in soccer fans follow leagues all over the world. Some American soccer fans do not even follow MLS at all but they are still soccer fans and there are a large number of those around. I know a few myself.
That might true, but that doesn't mean that there are more total soccer fans in the US than there are basketball fans. And it definitely does not mean that a pickup game of soccer is as easy to find as a pickup game of basketball. As far as sports go in this country, basketball still rules the streets, the YMCA, and intramural teams among lawyers, accountants and engineers.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Why are we talking about basketball in the soccer forum?
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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No I have always thought Texas was sports mad..... I should have put is at the start of my comment lol.
The only thing I know about sport in Texas is the Dallas Cowboys and that those two knobs Gillett and Hick are from there.
 
Old 06-22-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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Dallas Cowboys, FC Dallas, Houston Texans, Texas Rangers, Houston Dynamo, Houston Astros, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks. Looks like Dallas and Houston are the big sport cities. What about Austin, Fort Worth and El Paso? They are big cities do they not have major sport teams?
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