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Old 09-25-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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El Classico it way more than just a rivalry of successful teams, opposing political positions, with Real Madrid viewed as representing Spanish nationalism and Barcelona viewed as representing Catalanism. When Francisco Franco started his war against the democratic Second Spanish Republic, the president of Barcelona was arrested and executed Franco's troops. Almost all the ideas that have shaped the country's modern history, republicanism, federalism, anarchism and communism have been introduced from the region of Catalonia. Celtic v Rangers doesn't even need to be explianed, these two are way more than rivalries, they run deep.

And yes there has been tragedies but so has there been in other rivalries. The Ibrox disaster was a crowd crush in a stairway, causing 66 deaths and over 200 injuries, at an Old Firm match. There have been more murders linked to Celtic v Rangers, Boca v River plate rivalries than any other rivalry certainly in Europe. I know you love Liverpool and love the rivalry with Man U, but it is clouding your judgment imo because, although a great rivalry, it is no where near as fierce a rivalry as the ones I have mentioned and others like Galatasary v Fernebache, the Serbian derby of Red Star Belgrade v Partizan Belgrade etc.
As I siad, I base a rivalry on more then just killings and hatred. I base it on history and geography when it comes to Merseyside and Manchester. Come on Paul, you know what I am on about. Two cities that hate each other for more then football reasons. The success of the two clubs are very very close and the hatred between the fans is massive. The two tragedies are used against each other by fans. On top of that, they are the two biggest clubs in the biggest, best league in the world.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:59 AM
 
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Bottom line, Liverpool vs. Man United has lost a ton of luster.
Is disagree mate. The last few clashes have been massive with the whole Hillsborough, Suarez Evra affair and good matches have been shown on the football pitch. Alex Ferguson had to write a letter to the fans on Sunday asking for peace. As I said before though, its not going to happen.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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They've been dramatic matches no question. Heck it is one of the few football matches broadcast on Fox 11 in the U.S., the network channel not cable. That says something.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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The most popular derby doesn't equate to the best derby imo.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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They've been dramatic matches no question. Heck it is one of the few football matches broadcast on Fox 11 in the U.S., the network channel not cable. That says something.
You have to remember both Liverpool and Man United have large fan bases in the United States.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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You have to remember both Liverpool and Man United have large fan bases in the United States.
Doesnt make the match less important.

Go buy fifa 2013 everyone
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Fierce rivalry still wins hands down for me not commercial achievements!

And as soon as Friday comes Fifa 13 will be purchased the hell out of!
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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Fierce rivalry still wins hands down for me not commercial achievements!
It is a fierce rivalry. Its not like its a friendly rivalry.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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The game was loud as hell from where i was watching (los angeles).
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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It is fierce, its just that there are fiercer.
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